How would F. Mayweather in his prime have fared against any of the Four King`s title opponents?

Hagler would not lose to Mayweather.

 

I don't believe it would happen. I just believe that if Hagler employed a bad style match up he could possibly be outpointed

 

Even with the wrong tactics, Hagler would overpower Mayweather and wear him down.

If it goes the distance (which I doubt) then Hagler wins.

If it doesn't go the distance, Hagler still wins because there's no way on God's earth that Mayweather stops Hagler.

 

The only way Mayweather could outpoint Hagler is if all three judges are called JoJo Guerra.

 

Plenty tried that and it didn't work

 

He doesn't need to be, he'll just counter and win on points.

Leonard lost against 3 of those men.
And FMJ faced DlH, Canelo, Pac, Mosley etc, it's good enough

 

The point is this:

To be fair, you can only put a later version of Floyd in the ring with Leonard, as the fight would be at WW.

A prime for prime fight couldn’t ever have happened, as Floyd was in his prime as ‘PBF’ when he was between Lightweight-Light Welterweight.


Ray would have been a clear favourite at WW, because he could match Floyd for speed and skills, but he also had the size, strength and firepower that Floyd didn’t possess.

Both of them were beautiful boxers, but only Ray had the plan B of being able to fight.

Floyd couldn’t fight at the higher weights.

He was a chess master.

He couldn’t engage anybody in a shootout if needed, like how Ray could have.


Floyd would have had no answer if Ray had’ve fought him aggressively.

He wouldn’t have traded with Ray.

He would have been backed up and put onto the defensive, which would have nullified his own offense.


Realistically, Ray would have been a significant favourite based on attributes and how they’d have matched up stylistically.

 

Floyd had no road to victory over Marvin and Tommy.

They’d have been even harder than a fight with Ray.

 

You’re completely out of touch with reality.

Plenty tried that?

Yeah.


Answer me this:

Were they GREAT fighters who possessed Ray’s style and attributes?


Once again, Floyd never saw a Ray Leonard in his life.

Ray was equally as skilled, equally as fast, but bigger and stronger with much more power.

 

I’m not sure if you’re trolling.

You have no comprehension on how they’d have matched up.

Floyd wouldn’t have beaten Ray on points.

Again, if Ray ever found himself in a position where he’d have been losing on points, he’d have just turned up the heat and turned the boxing match into a fight.

Again, if Ray had’ve fought him aggressively, Floyd would NOT have engaged him, which would have completely nullified his own offense.


No. Ray didn’t lose to those 3 guys.

No. Floyd fighting those guys was nothing like fighting Ray Leonard.

Get real with yourself.


A faded and inactive Oscar, who pushed him hard for 9 rounds?

A young Canelo, who scraped by Erislandy Lara and Austin Trout?

A faded Shane?

A faded and injured Manny?


It’s not good enough.

NONE of those fighters even resembled a prime version of Ray Leonard at WW.


If you look at those fighters, Floyd had a significant reach advantage over all of them bar Oscar.

He had a speed advantage over all of them.

He was more skilled than all of them.

Against Ray, those huge advantages which Floyd was used to having would all have been completely nullified.

Floyd never encountered an opponent which matched him for skills, speed and size.


You have Floyd beating Leonard at WW, when his best win there was a struggle over a faded Oscar.


You are completely out of touch with reality.

 

Hearns is the one where I have the hardest time seeing Floyd being successful. That reach, speed and power... Floyd was better at walking opponents down than one would think, but it's a hard one for him. With modern weight cutting even more so, because then he'd have to tussle with at least a MW Hearns in there.

 

He couldn’t beat Hearns.

A horrible stylistic match up for Floyd, which just proves to everyone that styles make fights.


He couldn’t outbox another great boxer who was never outboxed, and who stood 6’1 with a laser like jab coming from a huge 78” reach.

He also didn’t possess the power needed to have stopped him.


An unwinnable fight for Floyd.

 

Floyd at 130 would probably have been at 135 during Duran's time, so the Floyd that beat Corrales against Duran of DeJesus 3... Magnificent fight.

 

I'm very careful with using absolutes even when talking about fighters in the same era, and even more so about fantasy fights, but I do have a hard time envisioning Floyd being successful against Hearns. There's no one below 147 that I don't see Floyd having a good chance against, but the power, speed, reach and skill of Hearns and even Leonard.... Very tough ones for a guy that looked his best at 130.

 

I'd give him a good shot with the judges for the Hagler-Duran fight.