How would F. Mayweather in his prime have fared against any of the Four King`s title opponents?

I’m the same. But with certain fights, I’ll make an exception.

This is one of those times.


Of course, Floyd was so great, he could outbox a guy of Hearns’ size.

He could have outboxed a lesser fighter. But not Hearns specifically, as Hearns was a great boxer too.


Leonard couldn’t outbox Hearns.

Benitez couldn’t.

Duran couldn’t.

Hill couldn’t.

Hagler didn’t even try to.


Look at their skills and their size.

Duran was incredibly skilled and was Floyd’s size, minus the reach.


Floyd couldn’t get past that 78” reach of Hearns.

It couldn’t be done in a chess match.

The only way to nullify that reach was to engage him aggressively with power.

To get close and to get inside.

A tactic that Floyd couldn’t choose as he didn’t possess the attributes needed.

 

Floyd could walk down someone like Mosley, who was old but still a banger, and also Canelo at times, who was young but strong and much larger, but yes I also have a hard time seeing him walk down Hearns.

The only caveat would be that I would have had a hard time imagining Leonard doing it as well, if he hadn't actually done it. That's why humility is called for in these fantasy match-ups. Real match-ups have shown us enough things we wouldn't believe if it hadn't happen to rule much out. Especially when talking about greats.

 

Mosley was a banger, but he had diminished skills and punch resistance. He was very worn. He couldn’t beat Mora and lost every big fight after.

Floyd was much fresher with the same reach and a considerable advantage in speed.

Canelo was young and naive and never pressured Floyd, where he let Floyd dictate the pace of the fight. He never used his advantages in strength, power and weight. He was a passive counterpuncher.

Those versions of those guys aren’t comparable to Hearns.


You’d have a hard time envisaging Leonard doing what?

Leonard went to war with Hearns and had the power to knock out a SMW.

He had the size, strength, power, confidence and the heart to have fought Floyd aggressively.


Sure, they’re fantasy match ups. But Floyd never encountered these kinds of challenges.

 

Nothing in this reply suggests that you actually read what you replied to.

 

This is a reply to what?

 

Should have known posting in this thread would be a waste of time.

 

Really?

Then enlighten me.

 

Why?

Everyone has been civil.

Me and Mark have backed up our opinions with facts.

We’ve been objective.

What’s the issue?

 

It's right there, just read it.

 

You responded to things I hadn't said and misquoted me, and when I called you on it you ask what the matter is instead of correcting yourself.

Now if that isn't a good example of waste of time, I don't know what is.

 

I read your post.

I saw the caveat you added.

I responded and put a question mark at the end of my point.

I acknowledged that it’s a fantasy post.


Yes, Floyd was never walked down aggressively by anybody. But at the same time, he never fought guys like who we’ve been discussing. And those guys did aggressively walk down elite level fighters like Floyd.


What’s the problem?

If I’ve misread anything, then please tell me which specific part and then I’ll gladly discuss it with you.

 

Leonard was not as skilled. He was clearly out boxed by Hearns.