How would Floyd of fared in the 80's @ 140/147?

I'm a Floyd fan but I don not place him nor any of today's fighter with the greats of my childhood. Boxing is not the same sport it was.

There's too much BS with promoters and as a result fighters accumulate worthless ABC titles and multi-division champion status. What happened to the good 'ol days when WBC and WBA meant something? When age meant a boxer slows? When moving up in weight meant a boxer sacrifices speed or strength? When a bad matchup was criticized not just by fans but also by knowledgeable writers (ahem Mosley v Pac)?

 

He would have been knocked out by Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Pryor. Other than that he would have done alright and been considered a very good fighter.

 

Come on dude Floyd was damaged goods again in JLC I. But somehow I think you know this. See how he handled his biz in JLC II! I think PBF beats Leonard and Duran. If anybody would beat him it would be Hearns but Tommy throws a lot of punches and leaves a lot of room to counter! So if any of the three would beat him it would be Hearn not Leonard. Floyd sr. has the blueprint to kick Ray Leonards ass he just didn't have enough left in the tank to execute. He whooped Rays ass round after round til he ran out of gas and got caught! Floyd Jr. wouldn't run out of gas.

 

Based on what. He has already shown that he can outclass fighters much larger then himself. He's just as fast as any in that era, he's perhaps the greatest defensive fighter of all time, his chin is solid, great footwork. doesnt get tired.


Please point to the flaws in Floyds game where he wouldnt be competitive with the likes of Ceuvas, Benitez, Duran, or Palomino.

 

Part of me wonders if you have a brain. I'm guessing you don't :think

 

Nah Sugar ray, Hearns, Donald curry, Duran, would have made Floyd stay at 130 and 135. These fighters were not only fast but very powerful punchers.. Donald curry's accuracy and power in both hand would be on par if not exceed floyd at 147.. hearn's long powerful Jab and his ability to hook off the jab, followed by his viking missile right hand,, one word "deadly" SRL's Speed + his wrecking ball of a left hook, which he paten after Joe frazer, along with his boxing skill . too much for Jr.. all three guys are average hight of 5'11.. so bigger, stronger, faster and just as skilled.. all three world class amateur more so with Curry and SRL..

lets not forget the boxing genius of Roberto Duran, his ability to think during the flow of a fight was amazing..

If anything floyd has learned from these legends, no way he beat guys that have the ability and power to knock cold supper middle weights.

 

Ay B, that pic you have of Kid Irish looks way too much like Bill Murray.

 

IMHO, anybody that says Floyd wouldn't last a second in the 80s era is just plain ignorant and answering this question from the perspective of "Floyd hater" rather than an unbiased boxing enthusiast.

Any fighter that brings this skill set to the table:

Pros:
Defense ability second to none
Very good offensive ability
Top notch Boxing IQ
Ability to Adapt on the fly
Amazing Ring Generalship
Stellar Footwork
Superior Speed
Cat-like Reflexes
Ability to fight on the inside & outside equally effective
Ability to fight going forward or backward
Solid Chin(Quick recovery when hurt)
Exceptional Stamina
Deceptive Power - I say deceptive because it isn't one-punch KO ability but it's good enough to keep his opposition honest. And if you consistently get hit early on in the match, you may end up like Hatton. Nobody fears Floyd's power, but during the fight they quickly learn to respect it.
Strong Will - Whenever he was faced with some scary moments he never crumbled. He always rose to the challenge. Floyd has never fallen apart when the going got tough. Even though he had an injury going into "Castillo I" he didn't use that as an excuse to lose the fight.

Cons:
Not busy enough
1-2 Punch Combos
Too defensive minded

None of that was an exaggeration. Any boxer with that kind of a skill set can be a top fighter in any generation. Period.

 

Duran that overwhelmed Leonard wobbled iron chinned Sugar Ray many times Duran might of dominated or even stopped Mayweather. Duran also cut the ring off so no amount of running would get Duran off him. Post Leonard where Duran is less of a brawler and more a technical fighter falls more into Floyd's type of fight and his advantage and I think Floyd might win a close decision there similar like Benitez did, but that was a much closer fight than most people say.

Tommy was the worst style for Floyd. Even Uncle Roger admits Tommy would be a nightmare for Floyd, but he doesn't need to tell us something we already know. Tommy's jab probably the best of any WW and had speed and power to go with it. Floyd doesn't have the power to hurt Tommy and Tommy did have the speed and power to catch and hurt Floyd. It would be highly tensioned fight with Floyd basically not even trying to win, but survive. Clear UD for the real "Hitman".

Floyd supposedly told SRL he would of beat him because he thought SRL was too flatfooted. Floyd struggled with speedy fighters that could match his speed like Judah and he was lucky Oscar and Shane had seen better days. I admit this fight would be much closer, but if anyone could find a way to win and do it with style no one did it better than Sugar Ray Leonard. And this guy took on real killers like Duran, Hearns, and Hagler. SRL would struggle with Floyd's jab, but break him down with his own shots where I think Floyd's defense won't be effective due to Leonard's own speed and power. This is also a Leonard that can go 15 rounds full speed ahead and go for the kill in the 14th. I think Leonard in a competitive bout, but ahead on the scorecards stops Floyd late.

Only one I see Floyd beating is Duran, but post Leonard.

 

Congratulations you just won the ***** POSTER OF THE DAY

 

So instead of answering his post with a logical analysis, you instead pull the ***** card?atsch

And this is why the *****/******* talk will never die.:wall

 

Hearns would have stretched him out if that ****** found the balls to step into the ring with the Hitman.

 

He would have fought all of them multiple times because this was the only way he could get paid.

 

Floyd beats the hugely overrated Pryor at 140, and probably JCC - although I think he'd lose to Meldrick Taylor. He'd have every chance against Duran at 140, but at 147 Duran looks the superior fighter.

He stands no hope against Leonard or Hearns at 147.

 

Floyd would do better @ 140 FOR SURE. He could beat Pryor and Arguello. He could lose to Pryor and Arguello. Great for rematches. @ 147 PBF would be like Benitez for SRL, Hearns would be very hard, but If PBF could make to the late rounds without being damaged he could decision Hearns. Duran would be hard @ 147, maybe @ 140 Floyd could eek out a SD over Hands of stone.