How would George Chuvalo do in today's division ?

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Chris Warren, I actually think Gomez did okay considering his age and Vitali's stature (physical)

    um......Vitali and Wlad would keep him on the end of the jab, I doubt they stop Chuavlo though. No one will drop him nowadays. He could outfight the likes of Arreola, and could well spark Haye after taking the early bombardment and Haye getting puffed out.
     
  2. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he could give even the Klitschko brothers a real tough night but only in a 15 rounder.

    I can't see the likes of Haye and Arreola having success against him. He could be upset by one of the more well-schooled Eastern European boxers but none of them are truly mobile enough for Chuvalo not to have a very good chance of winning.
     
  3. kolcade4

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    Wouldnt be knocked out by any body due to his iron chin and extreme durability yet I dont se him getting past the two *** brothers having a long night of beating on each other for 12 to 15 rds until Chuvalo loses the decision.. He would hold everyone else at bay either being #2 or #3 in the rankings.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Chuvalo had the skills and certainly the durability to be a respectable, lower tier contender. He might even get a title shot or two. I don't see him being a major force in the division though. As much respect as I have for him, he was to some extent, limited, plus he'd be a smaller heavyweight in a division of giants.
     
  5. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At best, a belt holder imo. Cant see him getting past the Kilt brothers.

    But like Ruiz, I can see Chuvalo nabbing a belt.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aside from the Klitschko brothers I don't see any real "giants" around these days aside from Valuev who I think Chuvalo should be able to beat as long as he doesn't have the decision taken away from him.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    True,

    However, even though there aren't very men who are between 6'7" to 7'0", there are loads of guys who are anywhere from 6'3" to 6'6" and weighing from 225 -250. Hell, even David Haye is 6'3", 215 Lbs, which was about the same size as Ali and Foreman were back in the day. No matter how we cut it, this is a big heavyweight division. Chuvalo would have to go through some of these men to get to the top 10, and while I think he could have beaten some of them, I don't see him making a whole career out of doing it.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Chuvalo's weight sort of bounced all over the place throughout his career, or so it appears on boxrec. My guess is that he was in good shape around 208 -213 lbs. He was also roughly 6'0" tall in height. I'm almost wondering if he might have been better off dropping a few more pounds, and getting down to about 200 to fight at cruiserweight, had he been around today.
     
  9. TheGreatA

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    Most of the 6'3-6'6 fighters are outside the top 10 at the moment. Haye is actually one of the taller ones despite being a former cruiserweight compared to Povetkin, Chambers, Chagaev and Boytsov.

    Chuvalo was 6 feet tall and in great condition at 215 pounds, not really any smaller than the four men I listed.

    I think he would do better today than some of the men who beat him because today's fighters focus on added weight and strength more so than stamina and tend to run out of gas in the later rounds. Chuvalo was both very strong and had great stamina. He would be a threat to anyone in the late rounds, with only the current 12 round limit hindering his chances.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    A fair position.

    Yes, I suppose he'd make a formidable opponent for just about anyone out there. His boxing ability doesn't impress me all that much, but then there are very few really good technicians who could just pick away at him all night long the way that a young Clay did. I think Eddie Chambers might have stollen a close decision, assuming he wasn't too lazy and actually worked for his night's pay. A younger Chris Byrd from a few years ago, probably would have done the same. Haye might get into some trouble, as he would try to take George out early, and perhaps end up gassing late. Valuev loses a close and boring decision. Chagaev might barely sqeak it out on points. Wlad and Vitali both walk away with an easy night's work in my opinion. Not sure how Povetkin or Arreola does.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Actually, come to think of it, Chuvalo's boxing skills weren't that bad. He does manage to cover up pretty good, take his time looking for openings, and unloads with some decent barages when opportunity provides. He's not exactly what I would term as " a sweet scientist ", but certainly a respectable student of the game.
     
  12. TheGreatA

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    I agree with what you're saying. Chambers at his best could be trouble but he allowed Povetkin, who in my opinion is no more impressive than Chuvalo despite his amateur background, to punch away at him at will for the last couple of rounds. It depends on whether he comes in shape and ready for 12 rounds, not just 4 of them.

    Chagaev is a solid boxer but the added weight has made him appear almost immobile at times. Against Ruiz and Skelton he was roughed up in close but he was able to box well enough to win both times. Chuvalo could take advantage of it.

    Haye I think would run out of stamina unless he shows major improvements from now on.

    Arreola and Povetkin would both fight Chuvalo's fight so I see Chuvalo winning.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    He was also perhaps the strongest fighter of his generation until Foreman came along. I think he'd match most of today's HWs well in terms of strength and vastly outdo them in terms of stamina.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was joking. :)