How would have a prime Byron Mitchell done in today's Super Middleweight division?

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  1. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who does Byron Mitchell beat from the current crop SMW?

    Andre Ward
    Carl Froch
    Arthur Abraham
    George Groves
    James Degale
    Robert Stieglitz
    Anthony Dirrell
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
    Andre Dirrell
    Sakio Bika

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  2. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i favor him to beat all the europeans!
     
  3. Imperial1

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    Loses to Froch and Ward beats the rest
     
  4. HerolGee

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    Mitchell beats Abraham, degale, chavez and bika.
    Mitchell loses to froch, Stieglitz, andre dirrell, ward.
    Mitchel draws with groves and ant dirrell
     
  5. Imperial1

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    I could see him being out boxed by. Andre with ease but if he tags him does Dirrell's mental issues come up :think
     
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    true Byron is not the gretest boxer. then again hes not the greatest banger. dirrell might sure be able to nullify him in ways that the more limited joe calzaghe was unable to.

    Like Joe calzaghe, Dirrell doesn't have the option to absorb Byrons output, because Mitchell is able to floor guys like them multiple times. However unlike Joe calzaghe, in neutral territory Dirrell cannot rely on the ref being in his pocket to stop the fight if he gets floored.

    I suspect Dirrell getting hit too many times may negate the points advantage he built up so yeah its quite a lot more open than I thought.
     
  7. Imperial1

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    He's a very straight up fighter ,I don't think he have a problem with Mitchell but if he were to get tagged who knows
     
  8. HerolGee

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    I think if Byron was such a threat that Joe had to rely on his ref to save him, then Dirrell is even more likely to get hurt.

    But DIrrell is a better boxer than Joe, skills wise.


    touch and go.
     
  9. Imperial1

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    Yeah I watched that fight with Joe I hated everything about the way Mitchell approached that fight ..I mean with his head straight up if he did that against Dirrell he would have been tagged all night.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    joe did the right thing to keep away from prime Byron and only show interest when he got destroyed at nabo level like he did with echols. prime Byron might well have destroyed joe if past-it BM was on the way to stopping him in 1 round.
     
  11. Imperial1

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    Seems. Joe stayed away from a ton of guys on their prime I wonder why :lol::think
     
  12. HerolGee

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    joe did the right thing really in keeping his title defences way below world level. Fighting at world level would have ended his 21 defence streak in single figures (someone better than Byron, say Echos, or even prime Byron himself, would have destroyed Joe), and joe would have not been able to get in the top ten british SMWs let alone the world top ten.

    This way joe can kid his way into the top ten SMWs ever, and remains top five in the British SMWs ever league too.

    If his run had ended with Byron all those years ago he'd have a paltry 12 defences I think, all weakling ones apart from reid, putting him substantially below Eubank, Benn, Watson, Froch, irish Collins and ours truly Herol G shunting him into the lower top ten of the best brit smws ever (ok maybe not irish Collins sure, cos hes irish, not because hes below joe).

    When you lack the top skills to outland percentage wise the top boxers, you need to find someway round it such as not fighting primes, to up your image, joe was a master of this.
     
  13. Imperial1

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    Yet people think it's just about hate with. Joe ..



    I mean names like Eubank Jones on your resume would have been real impressive wins had he fought them when they actually meant something ..
     
  14. bailey

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    How long before you do a how well would Tocker Pudwill do today? :lol:
    As a fan of SMW and having watched it since the beginning, I think Mitchell would do well. He had a punchers chance and beat SMW world champs, so I think would hold his own.
    I think Byron would have mixed results, where some he wins and some he losses. On todays list, I would favour him over Bika, Chavez Jnr, Anthony Dirrell, Stieglitz, Groves, and Abraham.
    I think due to Andre Dirrells style its a bit 50/50. I could see it going one of two ways, either Andre on points or Mitchell by KO. I think DeGale would stand a chance and again due to style have it 50/50. I would favour Froch and Ward to beat Mitchell
     
  15. HerolGee

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    how robbed the post prime, below-NABO level Byron must have felt to have been robbed of his rightful chance to finish Joe when instead he was stopped for slipping up sideways when there was no contact between him and Joe.

    Sure he'd just fallen on to ropes a minute before, but he'd got up and he'd also just dropped joe completely cleanly and walked through joes powder puff 20 punches or so. So unfair that Joe got a breather for over 10 seconds for getting cleanly floored, yet Byron when stumbling onto the ropes got only four seconds from the cheating welsh ref!

    Outside Cardiff, the poor guy would probably have been a world champion again, albeit the least important title, but inside Cardiff he never even got the rematch that someone like noncheating Froch would be happy to give him (though Byron would never drop froch of course, his chin is iron). But no, cheating Joe says no rematch and then went straight back to fighting bums in unknown Mycghergan, Ashira, king of 4-6 rounders Mario Veit and Salem for the next three years, pretrified tat someone of world class would destroy him lie Byron really was about to.