How would Jerry Quarry...

Except that you're NOT using the knowledge base readily available. You're using the equivalent of an "Zoo Animal ABC" book with three letters.

 

So their ONLY similarity is that they're big?

What a surprise.

 

GEORGE got hit plenty when faced with good boxers ALi YOUNG LYLE ! VLAD doesnt ! VLAD doesnt get outboxed and EARNIE did and so did GEORGE ! PURRITY was when he was an overtrained kid and SANDERS was a 64 powerpunching southpaw ! No comparison there ! BOWE didnt prove any greatness and HOLY lost 2 out of three and arguably 3 out of three ! TYSON was fresh out of jail and was actually smaller then HOLY ! Your points are rediculous and simple double talk ! :deal :yep

 

Im stating the obvious and your desperatly trying to be the guru !

 

I guess I have hard time with some people on here putting Wlad on this pedestal and having him knocking out ATGs, but he himself has never even fought a b+ oppenent in his career. You could tell me how good he is and how he can beat everyone, but theres really no proof of him beating anyone even worth a ****.

 

And thats the reason given for BOWES success ! VLAD is bigger faster and more powerful then BOWE ! Its looking even worst for HOLY now ! :hi:

 

He'd be recognized as one of the best. Him and the Klitschkos.

 

No, he gets hit by mediocre boxers like Purritty, Sanders, and Brewster. Then people make excuses for him.

You're right. He gets FLATTENED.

Except that they both beat him by exploiting his weaknesses, which are only now starting to be ironed out.

Bowe proved a good deal greater than Byrd.

:rofl

Need I say more?

 

Wrong.

That's ONE of the reasons for Bowe's success. Much more important were his numerous abilities on the inside--which Wlad completely lacks.

 

The VERY obvious.

Who knew that power and size were the only two variables?

 

We generally agree here.

You made 1 decent point, then go back to the "this era no good" mantra. :verysad Brew, Peter - even Brock to a lesser extent - were considered HW saviors by many on ESB... until Wlad beat them. Then they got bad overnite. :huh Damn, even the haters give Wlad too much credit :rofl

Funny, this thread almost died but it got rolling :yep If it wasn't for LL or K bros, we'd be arguing over Bowe vs Holy to Dempsey vs Firpo in HW threads

 

You made 1 decent point, then go back to the "this era no good" mantra. :verysad Brew, Peter - even Brock to a lesser extent - were considered HW saviors by many on ESB... until Wlad beat them. Then they got bad overnite. :huh Damn, even the haters give Wlad too much credit :rofl

Funny, this thread almost died but it got rolling :yep If it wasn't for LL or K bros, we'd be arguing over Bowe vs Holy to Dempsey vs Firpo in HW threads [/quote] Im not saying Wlad is a bad fighter by any means, but your stacking him up to be some unbeatable fighter which hes not. I honestly believe a boxer with a good chin and power, and aint afraid of going toe to toe with Wlad will beat him. I have 2 guys I feel that can our chageav and Peter, both can take a punch and throw one. After seeing Chageav beat Valuev in a very tactical way without getting hit with that solid of blow has a chance. Peter knows what to expect he was there 2 years ago and now is a better boxer who chooses his punches more wisely unlike before, he will beat Wlad in a unification match.

 

Well now you're starting to sound sensible, box03. I don't think Wlad is unbeatable. Why do you draw that conclusion?
Just because I think he could beat most of the CW to small HW champs of days gone by? Because I don't think this era is weak?

Agree that Chagaev or Peter has a fighting chance vs Wlad.

 

Well at least we agree that Peter and Chagaev have a chance against Wlad. I know Im going to hear it from everyone on this perdiction, but I feel Mccall has a shot at beating Wlad. Mccall's chin is one of the best in the division right now and I believe his power is little bit above average, while his skills can be questioned I do think he has alot of desire which will to keep him in the fight longer than most think.