How would Jerry Quarry...

These 2 reasons apparently are a million in some peoples eyes !:yep

 

It was a weird fight, I'll give you that. But I do not believe it was fixed. I suspect it was a combination of poor preparation, bad pacing and possibly bad food or another ailment. A little bit like a magnified Lewis-Rahman.

Yes, in each fight there are reasons for his failures. But then again, sometimes his opponents had to face similar obstacles. Brewster II, for instance, involved Lamon with a nasty eye injury that he was worried about.

These things happen in boxing. Wlad should get a partial pass for circumstances, but giving him a complete pass in each fight is unrealistic--and also is a double standard, since Louis is not being given similar passes for his fights in this thread.

 

If you think Puritty and Holyfield are on remotely the same level, you're delusional. Puritty's chin being better is irrelevant, because Holyfield was much better than he was. Puritty was a journeyman, and Wlad lost to him.

It's also debatable, since Holy faced bigger punchers.

I see. So you want to wallow in your ignorance?

You doubted a fact, I posted corroborating evidence, and now you're pretending it doesn't exist to win the argument. That's rather childish, wouldn't you say?

You've never demonstrated it. Seriously. In my entire tenure on this forum, I have never seen you throw up one single shred of decent stylistic analysis. I don't believe you understand boxing beyond size and power.

We're not talking about Foreman/Frazier. And your statement is inaccurate anyway. :good

 

:smoke Because if you understand the fight game you realize dispite some technicle advantages a fighter might have the size factor can render then irrelevent when the skill to use it is there! Dispite you claiming its a one demensinal arguments its a fact ! :bbb

 

Except that you never demonstrated that you know the fight game, because you've never posted anything approaching good analysis of technical advantages. Just "he hits harder and he's bigger". :nut

 

So where di I claim PURITY is as skilled as HOLY ? I claimed he is more durable and he is ? ( gee your getting repetitive ) If you ever bothered to read my post I make lots lots of reference to style when its warrented ! here it is not ! The size and strenth argument is the most relevent factor ! And trust me Im not wallowing at anything ! Are you so ignorent as to not understand that the internet is not always an arcurate place to get your info from ? And the FRAZIER GEORGE thing was an analaogy and it wasnt wrong in any way ! GEORGES biggest advantage had to due with his size advantage which when combined with his punching style ( should be obvious ) made JOE easy cannon foder for him ! :deal Cheers !

 

maybe you should pay closer attention to some of my other posts instead of desperatly trying to win an argument where your assessment is so flawed ! :yep

 

So I should believe you instead?

Tell you what. Check out a Joe Louis biography sometime. It will say EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

But by all means, feel free to stick your head in the sand and pretend otherwise. :good

 

I have. Like I said, you've never posted a shred of decent style analysis. The best I've seen from you is the observation that Wlad hooks off the jab--which you could have acquired from any HBO broadcast.

 

Fair enough. All I know is Wlad was winning Brew I very similar to Brew II, then all of a sudden had nothing left. Of course Lamon tagged him.

Few Wlad fans use (unknown) injuires to make excuses for him. Yes, Brew was the worse for wear after his fight with "white wolf", and Wlad didn't lose his energy pounding on Lamon that nite. That's boxing. Or as you say...

 

Your a classic BOOK WORM ! Its a rediculous statement and would be a very stupid thing to do ! And yes here you should beleive me ! :yep

 

I agree. But Lamon did get eye surgery after his fight with Lyakhovich, so it's as much a "known" injury as Vitali's injuries against Rahman (for which he also got surgery).

If Vitali loses his next fight, injuries will definitely be high on the suspects list--for me as well as everyone else. It's only fair to extend Brewster the same credence.

 

So you think I need that info from the broadcast team ? Now your resorting to desperate insurlts to try and discredit me ? And sorry your wrong ! Ive posted plenty of style analisis but against you this one has been the most relevent ! Your getting pathetic now bud !:hi: love these faces !:yep

 

That is one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard from you, and I've heard some whoppers. You want to know if Louis is dehydrated, but you don't want to search the internet OR look at books because it would make you a "book worm"?!

How do you get your information? Psychic visions?

 

It's not an insult, it's fact. You haven't posted any stylistic analysis at all on Wlad vs. Quarry. Just size and KO%, which anybody could get from boxrec. :good