How would liston have done against Louis s title challengers?

Have you heard of the Bum of the Month Club? He beats them all.

 

Agreed with Magoo.

The individual matchups are not the troubling part. More so it's the winning streak.

 

He loses to both Patterson and Ali.

 

I think that a bit of context is needed.

Joe Louis started putting away fighters who were ranked in the top ten in 1934, and kept doing it pretty regularly until he put away Walcott in 1948.

That is 14 years!

Sonny Liston started putting away people who were world class in 1958.

14 years takes him two years past the Wepner fight.

In order to match Louis, he has to be fighting people like Max Baer as a total novice, and putting away people like Walcott 14 years later, and he has to be consistent every year between (lets replace the war with a prison sentence).

I regard Liston fairly highly as a heavyweight champion, but that is way beyond him!

 

max baer knock liston the **** out. billy conn would outbox him

 

Yes man for man, using one particular best performance hypothetically over and over against a string of guys who by and large were not equal level and often disadvantaged it's easy to see one man win over and over. But in reality you can't keep using that one best night performance over and over. Realistically you must move onto the next best performance for the next challenger and so on.

Comparing any champion to Joe Louis most champions run out of enough good performances to keep winning.

How many good fights did Sonny outside of that window of 1960-62? That's all there is to play with where he might compare. Outside of that you soon have to use the clay performance, the Ali rematch and before it you have to use the sonny from the Besmanoff and whitehurst nights.