How would Marciano fair in todays heavyweight scene?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Does anyone have a link? Was it awhile back or recently? What was the claim versus the reality?

    And who truly cares, not like bench press is something significantly helpful in boxing.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The numbers you are quoting sort of add up, but you are combining the best elements of his 1950s training regime (from a position of weight cutting) with the best elements of a modern training regime, to get the number.

    If you gave Rocky Marciano to a modern trainer and nutritionist it is hard to say exactly what you would end up with.
     
  3. Muchmoore

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    It's water weight.

    Marciano wasn't dehydrating himself before weigh ins.
     
  4. FM219

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    The only way to beat the Klitchkos is to get inside the trouble is no one has been able to do that. Almost all of Rocky's fights because of his short reach he had to work his way inside and he was very good at it. He might have a much better chance at beating them than most people give him credit for.:hat
     
  5. di tullio

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239909
    I think this is the one. I just remember his numbers not making sense.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    On a side note Jim Jeffries was.
     
  7. Muchmoore

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    Foreman too in his first career.
     
  8. janitor

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    Cutting water weight is nothing new even at heavyweight, but Marciano probably falls into a time bracket where it dosnt happen.

    Even so, I am a bit skeptical that you can take his 50s weight and asume a weight reduction similar to those achieved with modern fighters.
     
  9. Muchmoore

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    Ten pounds, considering weigh ins are now a day before is no big deal. If it was same day weigh ins, then yeah.
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'd be unable to handle the brothers because he would struggle to hit them flush with serious heat due to his short arms, short stature for a heavy, and small size.

    Wlad beats him ala Sam Peter 1(Panicky and ugly with enough flashes of jab-right hand to atleast be clear about victory) and Vitali outboxes him but takes some roughing in the process.

    The other heavies wouldn't stay away or at proper distance and Rock beats most anybody in a toe to toe, close range battle.

    But most likely, he'd fight at cruiserweight, or maybe even lightheavyweight, and go on an absolute tear in either weightclass, most likely becoming the GOAT in either category.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    God Help Jean Pascal and Chad Dawson.
     
  12. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dear God, that would be ugly. Chad lasts a couple through retreating and boxing skills, then in 3 or 4, has a round like his first Johnson match( I think it was ten) but exponentially more severe and is stopped brutally.

    Pascal is utterly brutalized for 5 or 6 before hideously stopped.
     
  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why ?
     
  14. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    marciano would be a light heavy today with weigh-ins the day before the fight.
     
  15. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    That's my problem with the light heavyweight theory, on a more full modern diet we don't know how heavy he would be after training. Even dieting on baked potatoes in the 50s he generally would have 10-15 more pounds to lose in his prime to comfortably clear 175. I don't think someone as stamina obsessed as Rocky would like draining more than the "healthy" 5% before every weigh in. Kind of silly anyway when we know the guy could hold his own with 190-220 lb fighters. And why? Rocky against modern light heavies seems like a gross mismatch, I got a feeling it would be like the Mathews blow out over and over again.