How would Marciano have fared in the 60`, 70`s, 80`s, 90`s or present day at heavyweight?

Not good post 1980. Too small

No 185 man could compete against top big heavyweights post 1980

It’s unfair and unrealistic

190lb Holyfield had to PED up to 215lb in order to compete

 

Well in the heavyweight division, a big punch can take you far. Marciano would always have a punchers chance against these guys because he hit like a Mack truck but I would make all of the elite big men post 1980 heavy favorites over him

Willard? ...well, a 37 year old retired boxer/full-time rodeo star is really something, I guess

B Baer? Well a slow, cumbersome Bambi legged statue who was a one trick pony but who didn’t know how to spell the word “jab” wouldn’t have made a dent in the heavyweight division post 1980.

There’s a reason why big men 210-250lb took over the heavyweight division since 1980 and we haven’t seen a man crack the top 10 weighing under 190lb in decades

 

Too small, too truncated, too slow.

You can overcome one of these but not all.

 

Yep. He could punch though, with the best of them. Always has a punchers chance.

 

Well ok, in the last thread I mentioned kinesiology and kinematic chains, may as well continue with that. Marciano specifically is responsible for nine hundred twenty five foot-pounds. I don't think a lot of you guys really appreciate how much energy that is. If there ever was a man who made me question whether or not magically extra powerful humans exist it's Marciano. That is one of the single most incredible statistics boxing has to offer. I'm inclined to believe he kept dynamite in his fists like Wolverine does adamantium.

I think a lot of people make the mistake of looking at Marciano's 925 and then guessing some absurdly large number for a larger man because he's larger. If George Foreman or Mike Tyson or Earnie Shavers, or anyone else you want to tell me hit harder or could hit harder they certainly did not do it in the ring. Marciano was not landing 925. I don't care how clean the shot is or how open the sap was or how much they took the bait, 925 without any doubt kills. So I'm not saying Joe Frazier couldn't hit harder, nor am I saying he could, but I am saying Marciano well cracked the power ceiling. Dude's got plenty, more than enough. I'm sure the other guys did too.

That said, Marciano's power makes him dangerous for any human being whoever lived. If he does hit you with 925 I don't give a damn if that was on your shin your ass is going down.

It's like a ****in Cor-Bon 500 Mag DPX at point blank. Absurd. I've no clue how human beings get that much energy into a fist.

 

It would be hard these days for MARCIANO because of the size difference of the superheavyweights but in the era of Louis & Marciano and Dempsey the lack of mordern weight training & weight gain, tall men did not fair so well so I think the Olympics and the evolution of growth would change the game of cource if we could duplicate Marciano's great great grandchild from his DNA with natural growth & modern help you would still have a relentless aggressive stamina full puncher coming at you throwing rhythym breaking bombs

 

Let me see if I can state again what is undeniable..
At his very best, Marciano relied on stamina and attrition to stop what were almost exclusively opponents who were older and smaller than those of a more recent vintage. Even against these opponents, he paid a high price in return fire to land what he did. Against larger, more powerful and mostly younger opposition, that return fire is going to be increased while the durability, on average, of his opponents will follow likewise.

While this has ramifications in a fight by fight basis, consider what it means over 10, 20 or 49 fights, constantly facing bigger, stronger, longer and harder punching foes while being a guy whose face was routinely made a mess and required medical attention to fix, whose back was a mess, who had to will himself thru increasingly barbaric training camps just to sustain such abuse.

A steady drip of water will break even an anvil. A waterfall will do the job much more quickly.

 

I can see Marciano beating alot of these bigger guys. The Bruce Seldons Bone Crusher Smith's ect.
Alot of these bigger men are just not very talanted so I dont think there size matters. Marciano knew how to fight and he would get inside of alot of these guys and take em. I'd pick Rocky over Wilder. Wilder had no clue what to do with Ortiz befor he caught him
It was the most pathetic display since Seldon took a dive.

 

This is what many fans of guys like Rocky, Frazier, and even Liston to an extent don't appreciate....certain styles translate better to the modern game than others. It doesn't detract from their respective historical greatness one bit to acknowledge accomplishing the same career against fighters 30-40 pounds heavier on average would be extremely unlikely.

In a one-off scenario, yeah, crazy things can happen...but winning a handful of bouts over guys over 200 pounds doesn't mean they could handle the attrition of doing it for 40 or 50 fights against 220 plus pound fighters. It takes a real toll, and it adds up over the course of a career. It's not the same as essentially fighting moderate sized cruiserweights for 90% of your fights with only a few coming against full-sized heavies.

 

Yea

People sleep on rocky. He had amazing stamina and heart along with an amazing punch and a ferocious body attack.

 

I don’t sleep on marciano. I know how great he is

 

I wish people would sleep Marciano.

So many great, great fighters draw barely a notice but this lil feller gets daily adoration.