How Would MIKE TYSON Do Against The All-Time Greats?

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I suppose like he killed Tillis, Smith, and Tucker?
    Just shut up. Tyson would be a great threat to any great heavyweight but he still gets defeated by most. I rate mike 8, which is completely reasonable.
    #1. Muhammad Ali
    #2. Joe Louis
    #3. Larry Holmes
    #4. Lennox Lewis
    #5. Sonny Liston
    #6. George Foreman
    #7. Evander Holyfield
    #8. Mike Tyson
    #9. Rocky Marciano
    #10. Joe Frazier
     
  2. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    Pretty solid list dudio, why isn't Marciano higher though.
     
  3. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Thanks.

    I guess it would be smart to rank Rocco higher, but I just can't. I rank head to head very highly in my lists. Acomplishment wise he ranks pretty highly. but head to head he loses to a lot of these guys based on his size and limitations.
     
  4. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    I disagree with some of the author's comments and predictions. I've always felt that Tyson would murder Joe Louis. The Brown Bomber never met a skilled puncher like Mike Tyson in his life. I see Tyson slipping the Louis jab and hurting him with a right to the kidney, then flooring him with a right uppercut. Louis would not see Tyson's knockout shots coming.

    I invision Tyson knocking out Sonny Liston, too. The fight could go either way, but I think Sonny would get discouraged and hurt by Tyson's body shots. Or, Tyson would get frustrated with Liston's long and thunderous jab. But I see Tyson getting the knockout because Sonny would quit first. I'm talking prime Tyson here. 1985-1988.

    The only prediction that made me think was the Larry Holmes fight. A prime Larry would have fought a much better fight, but I think Tyson would still knock him out. Tyson was a finisher, unlike Renaldo Snipes and Earnie Shavers. Tyson would work the body and get the duke eventually. He would have to be patient, but he'd probably knock out Larry late.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    In the early 90s hed' only had a few fights before going to prison so a silly comparison. Rudduck despite his limitations may well have beat Moore, Walcott, Charles as all 3 had durability issues and Rudduck is a brutal puncher

    If you want to do a fair comparison compare Holmes, Spinks, Thomas, Tucker, Rudduck, Tubbs, Bruno to Moore, Charles, LaStarza, Louis, Layne and Walcott. Tyson's has more depth, quality as good on the best wins, different styles, more bigger men
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Your examples of Tyson fights were one sided wins by Tyson.
    Tyson at his best would have been a head to head monster for most if not all of the all time greats, and they would admit it. too. Defeated by most. :lol:
    Good list, but Lewis is too high
     
  7. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I have too much trouble deciding where to place Louis, for me to make a Heavyweight H2H list.
     
  8. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats a belting list 9/10:good
     
  9. according the careers

    no teven in dreams liston is above george foreman. foreman destroyed norton and joe frazier twice, george chuvalo,michael moorer,gerry cooney,bert cooper... norton and frazier did beat muhammad ali.
    foreman in his 40s won the title after to be retired during 10 years.
    liston did beat floyd patterson(185pounds) and cleveland williams (not a great thing) end of the history.
    joe frazier did beat a 29 years old muhammad ali ,bonavena,quarry,chuvalo and he gave wars to ali.
    frazier is above liston in the history.
    marciano and frazier are above tyson. rocky didn´t beat the best opposition, but he did beat the best boxers of his era and he was undefeated, tyson lost against holyfield,lewis,douglas.. .
    holyfield ,marciano, frazier and foreman are above lennox lewis.
    evander was a cruiser and he was fighting against super hws, he is the only 4 times hw champion of the world.
    larry holmes honestly he was great but also he fought wars against average boxers like berbick, spoon, smith, weaver, past prime norton, past prime shavers...
    other thing is who would win...
    liston would have chance against several legends, but his career doesn´t deserve top 10.
    in my mind prime tyson or frazier would have beat prime holmes, but holmes is above them in the history. liston would have beat marciano,lewis,holyfield,tyson,dempsey. but he is not top 10 in the history. vitali klitschko is not top 10 but he might well beat several legends.
    1_ALI
    2_LOUIS
    3_JONHSON
    4_FOREMAN(OLDEST HW CHAMP EVER)
    5_HOLMES
    6_FRAZIER
    7_HOLYFIELD
    8_LEWIS
    9_JACK DEMPSEY
    10_ MIKE TYSON (THE YOUNGEST HW CHAMP EVER)
     
  10. :happy i agree absolutely
     
  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I enjoyed the article a lot.

    I enjoyed his 2004 updates, and his corrections to the Johnson prediction.

    I also agree with him on the Liston Ali and Foreman fights 100%
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Geez, PowerPuncher could it be I was writing in response to the paragraph I quoted?

    2004 Update: I have continued to rate Marciano in my top 10 all time heavyweights. The top heavyweights in 92 were Tyson-Bowe-Holyfield-Lewis-Ruddock-Witherspoon, so saying that Marciano had never faced a heavyweight of that quality was true.

    -So yes, I feel it is stupid to suggest Maricano needs to prove himself against these specific fighters when Tyson himself most certainly did not.

    -I agree on that point. Comparing the fighters Marciano and Tyson actually faced is more useful. Though your conclusions are troubling but not surprising.
     
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  14. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Holmes was 38.

    Holyfield was still 34 in the rematch.

    Lewis was 36, but significantly better conditioned than he was against Vitali, as evidence by his weight, muscle-tone & stamina.
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Lewis was a few months shy of 37, I rounded up in all cases to simplify; month by month would be too tedious and sometimes misleading. For instance Rocky had just turned 33 by the time of the Moore fight, so on paper it would look like there was 6 years between them when in fact it is closer to 7.