How would Moorer have done at cruiser during Holyfield`s era?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How would a prime Moorer have done v Holy`s cruiser opponents if he could have fought at cruiser and was the same age Holy was during his 80`s cruiser reign as champ?
     
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    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moorer would have lost to Qawi.
     
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    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    probably pretty good. He probably his punch still at 190, yet he did not have the chin even at 175, when he was rocked by Leslie Stewart.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I agree and his punch had far more effect at 175, why was that? Is thee a science to it.
     
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    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moorer stylistically presents problems for Holyfield at any weight, although more often than not I think Evander would prevail.

    Agree with the above that Moorer has a lot of difficulty with Qawi.

    Moorer would have been a factor at 190, but probably a bit too flaky and inconsistent to be dominant in the way that Holyfield was.
     
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    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably just the fact he was bigger and stronger than the guys he fought at 175, yet at heavyweight he was smaller. He was always rather flatfooted, so he got a lot of leverage in his punches and being southpaw confused guys. I remember a lot of his knockouts at 175 started with bodypunches.
     
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    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he would have done well at 190 in that era but I think the Qawi from the first Holyfield fight is to much for him. Looking back on it. MM easily could have won a belt at 190 in his own era before moving to heavyweight. There really wasn't much out there at 190 in his era.
     
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    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are correct. Even some of his fights at heavyweight he would be more flatfooted and bang away. I watched the Jirov fight fairly recently which wasn't a great fight but it was interesting how he broke Jirov done in that fight. He was behind on the cards and being out worked but hurt Jirov a few times to the body and by the 9th round Jivov was exhausted and got caught right with a good shot.
     
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    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. He could have really been a three time titlist had he won that title and then it would have been better for his legacy somehow. He won the WBO title and at the time that was thought of as less than the WBA or WBC or IBF, but in retrospect it is about the same. They should have just kept those 4 titles at least, but then more and more came up. Really if boxing wants to be great again, they have to eliminate catchweights and have one title in each division.. The champion in each division would really be a wanted guy to fight. And it would make the fights better and the fighters better. Catchweights for titles has always been to me low key cheating. How can there be another weight for a title at a specific weight? It goes against logic.
     
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    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he could beat Evander or Qawi at their Cruiserweight best.

    He would beat the version of De Leon from 86 onward, but have great trouble with prime De Leon.
     
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    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pity he never fought at cruiser.would of been very effective
     
  12. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's a good thing he never fought at Cruiser, as the division was a wasteland when he initially moved up to heavy. It's not like Moorer-Lampkin or Moorer-Wamba would have set the division on fire at the time, or made him a lock for the HOF. He could just as easily have fought Norris or Cole when they were at heavyweight, if those were compelling match-ups that needed to be made (which they weren't).

    It was clearly the right choice to skip cruiserweight, as his career panned out pretty well at heavyweight, both in terms of achievement (winning heavyweight title) and entertainment (FOTY vs Cooper). The real intrigue is what a cruiserweight Moorer would have done in other eras, rather than his own.
     
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