How would Muhammad Ali do against the heavyweights in the past 35 years

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I'd take Wlad from 2009 to 2013

    For me, the Povetkin fight tactics will work on most people who can't out power Wlad, even someone as great as Muhammad Ali.
    That much hugging, combined with the fact Ali could be hit with a good jab in his prime, tell me that Wlad has a very good chance in this one.
    Wlad's power is consistently understated and not talked about in this match up, after a few rounds I think that Ali knows that he could be hurt in this one and slows the tempo down, as to keep more defensively minded. Wlad's jab would start to tilt boring rounds, which are mainly spent wrestling, in his favour imo.
    Not many people see it that way though.

    Good point in the last paragraph, I agree it's possible but Prime Wlad didn't really show many weaknesses mentally. He never faltered against Haye, who we know tried to do his best to have Wlad shook.

    But it could happen, and I favour Ali and his style over 15, especially if he goes to the body hard.
    So in short, Wlad UD12, Ali TKO14.
    Similar with Lewis.
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Those guys were pacing themselves for 15 rounds. No compairson really. Also not sure where you are getting a punch count from Ali Liston when even compubox numbers on recent fights are proven to be unreliable at best
     
  3. juhave

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    I agree all others but Mike Tyson. Tyson was like Frazier but much better. Tyson (from -86-89)would ko Ali inside 6 rounds.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    He hung around for pretty much the entire 70s while past his best. He wouldn't do well against the tall boxer punchers after his legs went.
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Ali beats all of them

    Now place Ali against the boxers 35 years BEFORE him... That'd be interesting
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    Nahhhhh the only person who I'm adamant that beats Ali at his best everytime was in his own era.

    Joe Frazier was a bad man
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    *Coughs in Marciano and Louis*

    I'd also enjoy seeing how Ali would mix it up with Walcott
     
  8. George Crowcroft

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    Well yeah, but I don't favour either in the first place let alone everytime.
    I think that Walcott's awkward style would make Ali look bad for a couple rounds but once Ali has him figured out its Ali all the way imo.
    I'd say that Ali stops Walcott actually, who's whiskers weren't the best and Ali is an underrated puncher imo.
     
  9. PhillyPhan69

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    you should, it is much more fun than the status quo!
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Both of them? C'mon Philly. You know I can't give Marciano credit
     
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  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol! I do understand! I don’t rate him as highly as our undefeated friend....but I do think all 3 + Holmes beat Ali leaving Ali as my T3-4 HW H2H.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I have Ali in a similar place, although I have him losing to different people, and beating 2 above him. It's complicated.
     
  14. kdyehs

    kdyehs Active Member Full Member

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    I think I 100% agree with the above.

    If you are smaller than Ali I think you need a lot of pressure while being very self aware defensively. David Tua would be an interesting challenge. I think he is the closest to the Frazier style in modern time boxing. So maybe he can win one fight. Tyson on the other hand is not capable of 12 rounds he would start eating too much shots after a few rounds.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    If it's prime Ali, I think Tyson would beat him and he wouldn't go 3-0 against Lewis, Vitali, and Wlad.