How would Pacquaio have Fared Against Opponents in their "Prime"

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morales UD
    Pac KO/TKO Hatton
    DLH UD Pac
    I honestly can't call the pre-margs Cotto/Pac. I'd give Pac the edge still: UD
    Pac always beats plodding, trashcan Margs. Possibly even with Wraps
    Mosley UD Pac
    JMM obvious
     
  2. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Pacquaio beats :- Hatton, Cotto, Margarito all 9 times out of 10.

    Pacquaio loses:- DLH

    Regarding Morales and Mosley I think they'd be pick'ems.
     
  3. aramini

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    Mosley and Oscar are the only real cases where I think the prime versions do significantly better ... Pac is a weird fighter.

    JMM knows him inside and out from fighting him over and over and over and has a good style to beat him, and was still losing rounds this time.

    I think once you get used to the weirdness Pac is a little easier to fight, so I hate that Bob threw him in with a guy who has his stylistic number four times and wants another, discrediting someone who is a head to head nightmare to deal with because he is so odd.

    Pac will always destroy MAB and Hatton.
     
  4. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and if we are looking at primes, this JMM win has occurred well after Pac's real prime.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Well we know he loses to Morales.
    I think he always beats Hatton.
    Prime Oscar crucifies him
    I say he beat a prime Cotto
    Margarito is tough to call, I go with Antonio by tko
    Prime Mosley crucifies him

    Marquez and Pac met in their true primes probably once only at sfw. First time I watched I had it 1 point to Pac, second time I had it 7-5 to JMM. It's the last fight I need to watch in their original trilogy (I like to watch close fights three times) So however I score it upon my next viewing is probably how I'll see a prime for prime matchup going. It'll always be a close fight though.
     
  6. Techniques

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    He loses to ALL OF THEM, how bout that? Except hatton.
     
  7. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    amazing. Obviously Pac should be 3-61-2 with 1 lucky knockout if he faced prime opposition.

    this revision of a whole career based on one punch from a guy who always had Pac timed (like Forrest always had Shane timed) is pretty unbelievable. No one takes away Terry Norris' wins when he lost to all the guys he shouldn't have.
     
  8. Ianian58

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    Morales and Barrera beat Pacman at 122 in their primes, he would probably survive against Barrera in a tough war but would go down in another all out war against Morales. This is due to being a one dimensional fighter at the weight. Morales and Barrera are arguably best fighters of 122 since Gomez for a reason.

    Pacquiao defeats Hatton at 140 via KO due to Hatton's limited fighting skills.

    Pacquiao defeats Cotto in a tough war at 140 or 147, it would be a completley different fight from their actual fight, but Cotto won't be able to get away from Pac. And I'm Puerto Rican.

    DLH is a unique fighter, I believe he'd beat Pac and May at their primes considering how much trouble May had. But he would only win by decision.

    Mosley, IMO, was best at 154 and would KO Pacquiao due to his epic power.

    Pac UD's Margarito like he did in the last fight, but it would be a tad competitive.

    Marquez and Pacquiao arguably fought each other in their primes in their first and second fight which makes me say it's a toss up on how much people argue who really won, though if I were a betting man I'd go for Marquez, but still it's really just a toss up.

    I would actually like anybody try to argue my decisions.
     
  9. ThaWiseJester

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    Morales Wins decision

    Hatton-Pac gets late KO

    DLH- DLH Ko Pac in 8... One must remember Oscar's chin so he would pounce on Manny,and even "old weight drained,couldn't pull the trigger Oscar" had hurt Manny with a left during the fight and took hell of a lot of hard clean punches..

    A young Oscar would land plenty of lefts and body shots on Manny even in exchange for him taking shots.

    Cotto-I think a confident Cotto would have jumped on Manny like he did Floyd, and or have a real game plan instead of just trying to exchange...

    Margarito-I thin Pac wins but very damaqed at the end of 12.

    Mosley-Even Roach acknowledged Mosley being a dangerous opponent,Mosley would KO if he was tactical and aggressive,,, Manny goes down due to body shots to the body.
     
  10. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any left hook artist is completely neutralized by Pac's stance and natural angle of attack. Guys with strong rights trouble him. End of story. He kills Barrera every single time and struggles more with Erik. Cotto and Oscar would always be troubled by that, because their best weapon would be less effective than usual.
     
  11. Techniques

    Techniques Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People still dont know that pacquiao is overrated? Obviously the only prime fighter he ever fought and beat legitimately was Hatton, (Im not going to say hatton was washed up), obviously Marquez beat the crap out of him all 4 times. Pacquiao is overrated, and should just retire already, HBO did an incredible job of hyping pacquiao up for all of the *******s and Fake boxing fans to go crazy over, right after the DLH fight in which pacquiao got super hyped up and had every person who dont know a thing about boxing wet in their paints. The guy is done, I hope he retires, and another marquez is the last thing I want to see, marquez won the series, its over. If pacquiao is going to fight again, he should at least fight a young fighter, he shouldnt fight marquez again.
     
  12. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He landed plenty,but he was not putting everything on them,it was more trying to out land the other guy instead of going for the knock out.
     
  13. markq

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    Hatton? Floyd the feathered fisted one (according to *******s) already KOd Hatton. Pac's most legit win is Barrera. You can't take that away from him. Everyone else he's beat though needs an asterisk explaining their losses coming into the fight, catchweights, their age or their affiliation with Top Rank. It's not like Arum hasn't come under the scrutiny of the FBI before for fight fixing and this is the same guy who said Margarito was innocent even after the evidence.
     
  14. Ianian58

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    -Marquez beat the crap out of Pacquiao = Two close fights in which both fighters gave it their all, one in which Marquez finally beat Pacquiao and the epic fight which was a toe to toe war to decide it once an for all, 'beat the crap out of him'?

    -Overhyped is agreeable due to his rabid fans, which all fighters have and hype which once again all fighters have.

    I give the troll argument a 6/10, nice try for an ameature.
     
  15. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Are people really saying Cotto beats him. Hatton ?

    Pacquiao is incapable of beating anyone decent. Even people he has already beaten, would actually stop him under different circumstances

    Apparently

    :conf