How would Patterson have done against Louis, s title challengers?

i am pretty sure they were pretty even with ingo being the harder puncher

 

Patterson loses to several of them. He just wasnt as good as Louis.

His chin would betray him at minimum 2-3 times in 25 defenses. Against that line up.

Schmeling was better than Ingo. He wins.

Baer probably stops him too.

I agree with several posters I like his match up against Conn.

Someone picks him off out of Godoy, Pastor, Galento, Walcott etc

He'd do well just not Joe Louis well.

 

Huh? what is absurd about what I said? Era Difference?

 

no he was not

 

Wasn't Billy Conn ahead on all cards until the last round?

 

Schmeling defeated 4 hall of fame fighters (Louis, Sharkey, Stribling, Walker) he had more ko's than Ingo had fights. Many top level wins over contenders of his era.
His win over Louis may be the single best win in the sport.

How is Ingo better? He had the Machen win and the Patterson win two very quality wins but little else in a relatively short career.
Schmeling was always in Supreme condition - Ingo do not. Explain why you feel Ingo was better?

 

Can't see him getting past Baer.

 

yes if you ask me who should rank higher in history it is max surelly. But they fought in different eras, his win over Louis was a great thing but when you see the one sided beating that louis gave him in the rematch you realise that the first fight was a lucky victory.
about sharkey... without a doubt one of the weakest champions in history AND HE DID BEAT SCHMELING TOO.
H2h ingo and schmeling are pretty even but johanson had the harder right hand for sure

 

me neither

 

I appreciate your reply but I strongly disagree. Two quick points. One with Sharkey defeating Max, that "win" is considered the biggest robbery in HW championship history and has been discussed on this board many times over. The entire crowd thought Max won, as did Gene Tunney who was in attendance and out of 28 ringside reporters 23 picked Max as the winner with 3 calling it a draw and just two picking Sharkey. And the fight was in Sharkey's home country. From the edited footage available it seems clear to me Max was better in that fight.
2. Max was washed up in the rematch with Louis that first fight was no "lucky" fight.
Schmeling stopped men that had never been stopped before like Louis. Who would only be stopped again in his final bout with Marciano. He was the only man to stop Stribling who had over 200 professional bouts. He was only man to stop too contender Steve Hamas and the rubber man of Cleveland I can't recall his name at moment.
His right hand is tested and proven against better competition than Ingo's who crushed Machen which is great and then stopped Patterson who lets face it didn't have the best chin being knocked down more than any HW champ in history

 

it is nothing but an excuse, Louis would habe stopped him anyway at any year, was he washep up also when he lost against guys type like max diekman (tko in 4),larry gains(ko in 2),gipsy daniels (ko1),steve hamas, max baer stopped him,
on the other hand ingo only lost to patterson and stopped him once too.
he knocked out a prime henrry cooper, eddie machen(liston could not),and did beat bryan london.
Yes schmeling fought higher level of competition but also he lost to the most of them and lost to class c fighters and ingo only lost vs a world champ. if you remove his "lucky" win over Louis he has absolutelly nothing actually, carnera also did beat sharkey.. so what.

 

No he wasn't washed up when he lost to Diekman,Gains and Daniels he was a young light heavyweight! You get sillier!

 

a young lhw? lmao and later he was a 185 pounder? so 10 pounds changed his life, you are ****ing ******ed, obviously you are mad like hell looking for any post from me ready to reply any of your nonsenses cause i humiliated you badly lmao

 

I can't decide if your lack of English makes you appear more ret*rded than you really are but I suspect not.
Schmeling was 19 when he lost to Dietman and Gains, and 22 when he lost to Daniels, and inside the light heavyweight limit for each of them,in short he had not matured into his heavyweight body.
He scaled
188lbs for Sharkey
189 for Stribling
192 when be kod Louis
189 for Baer
I rank you with Ras al Ghul, both of you have about as much sense between you as a headless chicken!

 

Thanks for enlightening this fool I was at the doctors couldn't reply. I was going to say Schmeling was a teenager for those 3 losses early in his career.
Not knocking Ingo, but Schmeling faced better fighters and he defeated better fighters. Ingo had a relatively short career he liked to party and got out young. Schmeling had better timing and was more in shape in short he was the better fighter.