How would prime Manny Pacquiao do against these fighters in their prime?

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What did Jeff Horn do? Because it looked like Pac had a VERY light sparring session after the fight... Oh, you were talking about the fouling, wrestling, and all the other non-boxing stuff. Gotcha.

You honestly believe that Marquez went into the Bradley and Fedchenko fights with same resolve and dedication (obsession)? And Bradley had just come off taking a savage beating from Provodnikov, so Marquez probably figured Bradley would be a shell of himself like we all thought. Or did you forget?

And by that time Marquez was taking massive heat from the boxing public regarding his physical transformation and the KO and Bradley was INSISTING on VADA testing, which Marquez rejected.

 

Don't know how this has anything to do with Pacquiao as he always wrapped his own hands even up until his last fight, but that wasn't even the issue so i don't see the relevance,

I thought it was Vargas who said he soaked them in water before wrapping them or something plus Bernard along with other fighter's speaking up about them after it was discovered, i would have to look into it as you didn't offer anything further.

 

Pretty weak argument, especially when considering the level of competition while also comparing current fighters to one who's long been retired.

Nonito Donaire is a powder puff, the man has 57% KO ratio.

 

Scroll up and read, I'm not rewriting posts. It's relevant because Pac wrapped up his hands his own way rather than what is allowed in the state of New York cause it was comfortable for him, Trinidad did the same thing, it was allowed everywhere else besides the state of New York. If Pacquaio fought in the state of New York while wrapping up his own hands it wouldn't be allowed which is why he never fought in the state of New York to my knowledge. LOL at Vargas saying Trinidad soaked his hands in water, Jesus some people would believe in anything without proof.

 

Well it was Vargas & Bernard, two guys known to be talking hyperbole.

 

I was going to post the same things regarding the VADA fiasco with Bradley but you filled it in.

 

Jeff Horn came forward, dictated the pace of the fight and won simply due to his size alone despite being a glass jawed fraud. A brickless Margarito was basically a walking punching bag by the time Manny got to him but Manny in his own words said he received severe damage in that fight and had to go to the hospital afterwards. Manny just isn't a Welterweight, especially against Trinidad who was 5'11 with a 73 inch reach compared to Pacquaio who was 5'5 with a 67 inch reach.


Also, come on man don't be a hypocrite. Marquez was obviously juicing, nobody is denying that but he straight up called Manny's bluff on drug testing during their 4th fight and Manny flat out refused because he's been roiding heavily as well. Uh, Marquez had plenty of motivation in the Bradley fight, he was trying to make history and become the first Mexican boxer to win 5 titles in 5 weight classes, to think he didn't take that fight seriously is absurd, he tried his hardest to knock Bradley out but couldn't and got outboxed. It is what it is.

 

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Bruh, fouls and illegal tactics don't count. That's why Pac has barely any damage on his face. The blood streaming down both sides of his face was from headbutts that opened up cuts on his scalp. Again, Pac was as fresh as daisies after a post-fight shower.

Pac a G and Roach called Marquez out on doping, not Pac. Pac wasn't the type to slander or trash talk. It would have been silly and hypocritical for Pac to start accusing people of PED use (though in retrospect he should have). And VADA hadn't yet come into prominence and become the gold standard in drug testing. Pac's been VADA-tested in multiple fights and continued to drop/hurt much bigger guys. It's never been about power w/ Pac, but speed and angles.

Bro, the motivation for fighting your nemesis can't ever be surpassed. Bradley, again, was coming off of a HELLACIOUS beating from Provodnikov and most people thought we'd never see him in the ring again. Bradley's own coach even advised him against fighting Marquez. Marquez banked on him being a shell. The motivation was totally different. Just like Clenelo couldn't have been more motivated for Bivol than he was for Golovkin.

 

He lost, get over it.

"Pac a G" is probably the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard. Pac's head coach and trainer Freddie Roach claimed that Marquez was doping yet when Marquez called the bluff and asked for drug testing for both parties Pac and his team flat out refused to and said "nah, we're good" Roach is the SAME guy who made a big deal in Margarito's dressing room about the gloves and insisted on Pac's catchweight fights to have an extra advantage. You telling me he wouldn't demand drug testing despite Marquez agreeing to all because the honorable Manny Pacquiao talked him out of it cause he didn't want to hurt Marquez's feelings? Yeah, okay.

You repeating that Bradley received a hellacious beating from Provo doesn't prove anything, I'm honestly not sure what point you're trying to make with this. So in your own words you think Marquez felt bad for Bradley for getting beat up by Provo so rather than try and make history and win 5 belts in 5 weight classes Marquez just chilled and thought he'd take it easy on lil old Bradley despite trying his hardest to win and knock him out? That's probably the most idiotic thing I've ever read on this forum.

 

3 of them he beat, albeit they were aged. But prime for prime, is usually mythical because everybody has different prime times. Some age like fine wine, as others crack fizzle and fade quick at an early age (especially punchers) who have the ability to hit hard, but just the reflexes aren't there anymore.

It's like powerlifting. When you can do a set of ten when you instead pump out seven, the power is the last thing to go or else maybe the openings are just not there anymore? Idk. Anything is possible especially with the energy coming from the crowd, can energize a old man and make him seem quite young again.

We've seen this with Lewis, Mayweather, ggg, even maybe Sergio Martinez if he does come back, Hopkins etc.

But I agree with your other fantasy matchups as "murderers row" some of those guys would be hard for Pacquiao to beat. Just a simple fact, Mosley confessed that PAC man was the p4p king and he has been in there with Floyd too. If anything, Mosley has the credibility to talk about that!

 

That was a great win by Bernard. But we can’t compare Tito vs Manny, at WW-JMW, to Bernard vs Tito at 160.

There would have been a world of difference between fighting Manny and fighting Bernard.

 

Probably because he fought better fighters.

Wilder couldn’t knock out Fury in 3 attempts.

Most of his fights have been against much lesser fighters.

So if Wilder had fought better opponents, his percentage would be even lower.

Tito fought excellent fighters such as: Hopkins, Oscar and Winky. He was also finished against Roy.

He’d have had a higher KO percentage had he have fought Wilder’s level of competition.