How would Roy jones jr. fare against the ATG middle weights?

Jones already beat Hopkins
Jones beats Monzon on the same fashion
Jones beats SRR due to size advantage
Haven't seen Greb fight, can not comment.

But the Marvelous one TKOs Jones late.

 

Ok, let's get serious about this:

SRR: to much boxing skills for RJJ, sure RJJ was quicj, but so was SRR, he can punch, slick and had great angles, this fight would obviously be 15 rounders, I don;t think RJJ can handle the pressure for 15 rounds, SRR takes him in the 14 by TKO....he might have him in trouble before that...

Carlos Monzon:

Tall MW, with a very deceiving style, keep coming forward quick combos, not to the speed of RJJ, but nevertheless he is sneaky quick, Monzon was a master craftmana, and again we are talking 15 rounds...I just can;t see RJJ outsting Carlos for the decision....Carlos by UD

MMH: southpaw with power, can move, good boxer, and would love to mix it with RJJ, I don;t know if RJJ would enjoyed it as much as MMH....MMH by KO late......


In fact if RJJ would have box during the period of Graziano, LaMotta, Basilio, SRR....Cerdan, Zale, Bobo Olson, all this guys were tough as nails....plus again , like I mentioned on the LHW he would be forced to fight these guys multiple times, he would win a few but I beleive he would have lost more that he win.....

 

SRR- Too small for Jones who would actually be faster and stronger than him. SRR would have been able to match Jones for a few rounds, but not an entire fight. Jones beats him by UD. Better footspeed, more power, more handspeed.SRR started at LW. His name carries great weight, but there is a reason he lost his MW title 5 times. Not his best weight.

Only saw Monzon once. Won't comment.

Hagler- Strong enough to pressure Jones and enough footspeed to cut of the ring, and while he couldn't match him in speed or power, his style wouldn't need him too. Jones would be very competitive but Hagler would wear him down. Hagler had underrated boxing skills, could slip punches or take them on the chin. Hagler by SD or close UD.

Hopkins- same as the first time around. Hopkins got better from that fight on, but so did Jones. Everything that Hopkins wanted to do could be negated by Jones. Hopkins loves to counter punch, but you cannot counter punch Jones. He could pressure him, but Jones was quick enough to hit him and get out. He also was unorthodox enough that Hopkins couldn't time him. Jones by UD.

 

Monzon style was very deceptive, he look slumbering and erect stance you might think he was not capable, but he had great combos, great footwork and was a master at cutting the ring...sure he hit hard, but he was very deliberate...RJJ might fair well in the early rounds but be assure that the steamroller of Monzon will keep in the 5th and will not let go until the 15...We don;t know how he would faired against such a pressure fighter for 15 rounds...

If you watch Monzon v Benvenutti , any of the fights you will see exactly my point on the ease that Monzoin canb cut a ring.........

 

eventhough SRR started at a lighter weight than RJJ, he was 6'-0" and can handle up to 165 when he fought, agreed that MW was not his best weight, but RJJ,can hang with SRR, to much experience, can hit, quick combos and can punch....SRR...was a tough cookie, AND COULD TAKE A PUNCH.....for RJJ the questions as aI mention can he handle the pressure for 15 long rounds....I can see SRR takiing charge in the real CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS....as I mentioned SRR by TKO late

 

Why does everyone want to stick the current era fighter in the old era fighters domain? These fights don't have to be 15 rounds. It's really not fair to do so in fact because you would be merely guessing how the current fighters would do in 15 rounders, where as we KNOW how BOTH sets of fighters do in 12 rounders.

It's purely guesswork to say that any current era fighter would be good or bad at 15 round fights, unless they have notoriously bad stamina. Seems like it's a handicap given to the Classic Era guys, and is something to be used arbitrarily against the Modern fighter.

 

I mean if we speak of the time Roy was at Middleweight. I just dont see him being a dominant force against those guys at that time in his career. But if you are saying if he stayed (which I doubt he could of) he probably would of had AMAZING power at that level let alone speed. At 160 though. I just dont think Jones was at his peak as a fighter but he could beat all of those past greats. If he fought them 10 times. He'd probably win 6/10. But at 168... Unbeatable.

 

Agreed, but in order to make it fare, we need to compare the fighters on what the toughest era was, that was the nature of the thread, sol we need to address the lenght of the the fight......

Now, at 12 RJJ would ahve a better chance but I still like SRR....

 

Jones carried 193lbs well and fought consistantly at LHW. He was bigger than SRR. We don't know that Jones couldn't handle 15 rounds (see my above post) and pressuring Jones never truly worked until he was in his late 30's, when he lost footspeed. Otherwise, he would simply move out of the way and go back to potshotting and countering. SRR was not a pressure fighter from what I could see anyways. And I've seen a quite a few MW SRR fights.

 

How does that make it fair? Because now you are able to say "Jones may not have held up for 15" and its an advantage for SRR right because you KNOW he could? That doesn't seem fair.

I never saw Jones tired in his prime. To be fair, are we talking Jones up until he left MW? If we are talking THAT Jones, the one who fought Hopkins, he loses all of these fights.

 

Exactly Jones wasen't the fighter at 160 that he was when he moved to 168 and 175.

 

At 160, 6'-0" SRR still had great speed, he carry his power with him, one of the few boxers that did, and he fast also...now he was a better boxers skill wise than RJJ and that is the advantage I see on SRR side....I can;t see RJJ beating SRR under any circustances...He might try to pressure SRR, but I think it might be the other way around, SRR, was use to be the one applying the pressure.....as for the 15 rounds, RJJ never gave us signes of not being able to handle 15 rounds, but it is one thing to handle 12 against lesser competion than handling 15 against an ATG of the calyber of SRR