How would Schmeling do in the 70's?

Dont see him beating Frazier, Ali or Foreman, but I think he can beat the Lyles, Shavers, Bugners, and Nortons of the heavyweights.
I think he be in the middle pack about, and could perhaps even score a upset among the super elite(As Schmeling did vs Louis).

 

He would beat everybody on that list.






Except for Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Young and Holmes. And quite possibly Norton and Lyle.

 

Loses to:

Ali

Frazier

Holmes

He beats:

Neon Leon

Bugner

Norton

Foreman

Lyle

Ledoux

 

Frankly, I think that if Schmeling were fighting during the 1970's, he would have been better off dropping down to lightheavyweight and competing against the likes of Bob Foster, Saad Muhammad, and John Conteh.

I think Schmeling was truly a great fighter, but he'd be a little out of his league in the heavyweight picture of the 70's. Too many greats packed into one era. Foreman, Frazier, Ali, Norton and Holmes would all have my vote to beat him rather handely. The rest of the crue, such as Quarry, Lyle, Shavers, Young and Ellis, would still be dangerous propositions, though he might have beaten some of them.

 

Well, i think he would beat them all with the exception of Ali and Frazier.

 

I dont think he could have.

Schmelings last fight at light heavyweight was against Gypsie Daniels aged 22 and the problems he had making weight likley contributed to the outcome of the fight.

By the time he was coming into his best he would have had to contest at heavyweight.

 

Exactly what i was thinking

 

Under the right training circumstances, he might have had better success maintaining a lower weight. Spinks was 6'3", had a larger frame than Schmeling, yet he remained at lightheavyweight until around 29 years of age. The only reason he gained weight, was by choice to go after the HW title.

 

Schmeling was actualy a prety thickly set fighter even for a heavyweight. Compare the tale of the tape of his chest to Riddick Bowes if you dont believe me.

I dont think he would have been able to stay under 175 into his prime as he was probably doing prety much anything that would have been alowed in the 70s as it was.

 

Lets see:

Ali - too big and good, will beat Schmelling to the punch and outworks him

Holmes - Schmelling gets outjabbed all night

Foreman - if Max Baer is too big and strong for
Schmelling then surely Foreman would be too

Frazier - I see him countering and hurting Joe early but not being able to handle the pressure and strength from Frazier

Norton - the man who beat Ali versus the man who beat Louis. Ken did very well against smaller fighters and boxer types, I see this as a close call going the distance

Spinks - he dominates Neon Leon

Lyle - surely too much boxing savy for Lyle but Lyle was a beast of a man with a huge size advantage here. Again close call with Max being a slight favourate

Shavers - expect Schmelling to win but Shavers particularly against the smaller Schmelling has a good chance of an early KO, if Schmelling makes it out the early rounds he wins

Quarey - Schmelling UD too much class

Bugner - easy UD

Young - a tough call, Young beat Foreman and arguably beat Norton and Ali. How would Schmelling cope with his hit and move style? I'd favour Schmelling marginally but a 60-40 or 50-50, hard to call

I highly rate Schmelling but I'm not sure he matches up too well stylistically with this group, I'm sure he'd win some of the close calls but would lose a few too

 

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Frazier : Loss. Hard fought and bloody late stoppage.

Ali : Loss. If Ali goes all out, it would result in a late stoppage. Otherwise, it would go to a decision.

Foreman - Loss. KO within 5 rounds.

Young - Loss. Decision.

Norton - Loss. Late stoppage or decision. But Max would have his moments too.

Bugner - Difficult to say. If Bugner fought as he usually did, Max would win a decision. But Joe had the potential to turn the tables.

Lyle - Would be competitive. Could go either way.

Ledoux - Easy win for Schmeling. Mid-late round kayo or decision.

Holmes - Loss. Mid-late round stoppage most likely. But here too, Max would have his moments.

Spink - Win. Max stops Leon after some initial diofficult moments.

 

Which goes to show you how much of a joke those tale of the tape measurements are. Everyone knows Max is nowhere near Riddick's size and using tale of the tape measurements to show that cruiserweights are around the same size as superheavies, "potentially", is pretty pathetic.

 

Obviously I was not trying to argue that he was as big as Riddick Bowe. I used the measurment to illustrate that he was much more thick set than Bob Foster.

As for the tale of the tape measurments being a joke what exactly is the problem, were the tape measures shorter back then?