How would the greats deal with a hell bent Hagler?

Hagler at his best may have been the greatest MW of all time. He could box, punch with the best, take a helluva punch and was vrey adept at head feints and upper body movement. You could'nt intimidate him and he was fanatic about trainig. Combine that with his fierce will to win and you have a near unbeatable fighting machine. A peak Hagler would probably beat any of the all time greats on any given night save maybe a peak Robinson who was really at his best at Welterweight. Monzon was too metrhodical IMO though he would give Hagler a run for his money and the lack of any footage on Greb makes it difficult to judge how he would do against Marvin but it's fair to say that Marvin may be a bit too polished and technically superior than Greb who fought at an earlier time when boxing was every bit as tough if not tougher than the modern era but probably less refined as well so I say that the Hagler that pummeled a very dangerous Hearns probably would have been too much for the above mentioned ATG's.

 

Robinson beats him because of a bad styles matchup. I dont actually think Robinson was a better middleweight, but we all know styles make fights. Monzon wouldn't be drawn into a slugfest. Because of this, he wins a close decision.

Dont know enough about Greb to say. I know he beat some good names and all but who can say? We haven't seen him fight.

 

I think someone who would move would be a better matchup for him honestly. A prime Jones Jr. being a good candidate. He would not fight like that for the full 12.

 

Where was this hellbent Hagler against top savvy boxers. Hearns stood his ground, the hellbent would soon dissipate against the great boxers like Monzon. It would boil down to the better man.

 

I don't think he could do this against others, no. At Middleweight Tommy wasn't the most durable or stamina laden. For whatever reason he appeared out of gas and legs as early as the second. This isn't happening with the likes of Robinson and Monzon, and remember Hagler faded late in a couple of long distance battles. Tommy took a lot of full punches before he succumbed, a Monzon's chin is going to get past this comfortably IMO.

 

Monzon would have been too clever for Hagler. He wouldn't have been foolish enough to either try to ko Marvin or get into a slugging match with him. I see Monzon winning a close but clear decision over 15. Robinson at his best wouls win a 15 round decision too, and Valdez was capable of it as well, with the extra advantage of perhaps landing some meaningful dynamite along the way. I don't see anyone else, even Leonard or Hopkins withstanding an all out attack by Hagler, like the one he unleashed against Hearns.

 

Good post, Hagler was also at his best in earlier days, when he was at his boxing(not brawling) best.

 

Sugar Ray R.: Uses jab and movement, and when necessary exchanges and clinches. Would probably have won a decision after a severe test by the 'marvelous one', particularly during the early rouinds.

Carlos Monzon: Octopus armed and clever with great punching power, mostly tended to fight leaning against the ropes - really made an art of it. Tries to catch Hagler coming in with his power punches and then tries to frustrate him inside by clinching. Can't really decide what will happen here.

Harry Greb: From all accounts was a true warrior who gloried in ring battle. Would have relished the Hagler fighting style of the Hearns fight and would have tried to pay back Marvin in his own coin. Outcome would have depended on who had the better punch, who took the better punch and if the fight lasted who was in better condition. I would say it would be Hagler but it is really difficult to say.

 

Hagler id what was right to nullify Hearns.

Charging like a madman at someone Monzon would be...foolish.

 

Monzon would beat him by a wide points margin.
Robinson would beat him by a close points margin.
Greb would beat him by a close points margin.