How would Wilder have done vs lesser HW Champs of '00s?

I see Wilder sleeping Roy

 

Rahman KO'ed Sanders and Lewis which is signifanctly better than Wilder's resume. Not to mention getting a draw vs Tua which he most certainly deserved to win. I wouldn't be so sure of Wilder beating Rahman I think people forget Rahman had 41 stoppages and had a very potent right hand himself not to mention a good jab.

 

You could say the same of Luis Ortiz, except he was even slower with a worse gas tank and was much older than his listed age, yet he went 10 rounds with wilder. I reckon Rahman can at least go the distance and take a decision, if not knock wilder outright.

 

I think you're overrating both Wilders ability to land first and his chin.


Ruiz I think you're right.

Rahman and Maskaev would be disadvantaged in size terms... But both were better and more proven than Luis Ortiz, who arguably would've won despite an age and condition deficit, had the referee not protected Wilder.
I'd give these guys a 60/40 chance at worst.

Liakhovic and Brewster could easily be 50/50 fights.


Agree on all the guys you picked to beat him.

The guys you consider 50/50 I would pick all to beat him.


Wilder's record suggests he was never much above gatekeeper level - yes he hit very hard if you gave him loads of time and space to swing... But he was always very limited technically and his chin isn't great either.

 

Ruiz I think beats Wilder in an ugly decision. Ruiz's ring IQ was massively underrated.

Byrd completely dominates him. Not a fifty fifty at all.

Maskaev probably gets KOed after outboxing Wilder. His chin and defence were just too iffy.

Rahman is likely a fifty fifty. Either could bomb the other out, and both could blow hot or cold.

Brewster is a hard one to predict. Did Wilder fight anyone remotely like him in his career? Maybe Stiverne comes closest, but I think this is a fight that Wilder would have to be dialled in for to win. And I don't think he's getting the stoppage on Brewster, though he might hurt him or put him down.

Liakhovich would give Wilder similar problems to Duhaupas, except in his prime he was better than Duhaupas. Wilder could get a late KO but he could also get outboxed and lose a decision. Lyak always kind of left himself a bit open though, so I'd lean towards Wilder by KO.

Valuev probably outboxes him. But predicting how SNV does against anyone is really hard for me to visualise.

Chagaev and Ibragimov both beat him fairly comfortably. Both have the skills, but Iggy had the speed and Chags had the chin. Expect something similar to the Parker fight from both men here.

Haye probably KOs him. Though I don't really care.

Peter could probably batter him to a late TKO but it depends if Wilder chooses to box or not. Peter presents kind of a similar problem as Stiverne, so there are routes for Wilder to win here, provided he keeps things long, and isn't demoralised by his rights hands bouncing off Peter's iron skull with minimal effect.

Briggs I think Wilder probably beats. Briggs at the point you're putting him against Wilder was a huge asthmatic punchbag with about three rounds tops of fight in him.

Sanders. Hmm, really depends which Sanders turns up. He was the most wildly inconsistent of any of the fighters mentioned.

 

People still vastly overrate Wilder, it’s pretty hilarious actually.

 

Sorry man but Brewster had an iron chin and would keep Windmill on his back foot till he KO'd Wilder,

 

You’d think they’d stop after he got beat by every notable fighter he fought.

 

Oh man, Sanders would have put him in a coma.

 

Wilder would KO Valuev who had zero defense, glass-jawed Maskaev and Liakhovich. I'd slightly favor him against Rahman too. Byrd, Chagaev and Iggy would beat him easily. Haye would probably stop him. Brewster and Peter are like 50/50 fights although Brewster, unlike Peter, had pretty good skills in addition to great power and chin. Sanders would completely demolish Wilder who looked awful every single time he faced southpaw in his pro career

 

Wilder has hand issues and there's seriously every chance he'd fracture something hitting SNV's skull.

 

Interesting thread. I don't favour Wilder in as many of these matchups.
I see him losing to Ruiz, Rahman and Peter. I'm fact, from the list, I would only envisage him beating probably Maskaev, Briggs and probably Liakovich. It's probably indicative of where I view Wilder's level overall... fringe top 10 who just didn't have enough quality wins for me to back him against many of these champions

 

I agree 100% with this. Maskaev is still 50/50 in my eyes. Maskaev didn't have the greatest chin but he could punch and he was more skilled than Wilder. He knocked out Rahman twice, which a greater accomplishment than anything Wilder did in his career. He definitely could have knocked Wilder out as well.

I might favor Wilder over Valuev too, who was slow. I think he loses to everyone else and mostly by KO.

 

I think most would be favored and all of them have a good chance. 50/50s for me are: Maskaev. He got thrown to the wolves nigh-immediately in his career because he needed money (and I think was a paid opponent in some of his losses) but was a good prizefighter who put it on the line, hittable but he hits back and is a solid boxer. Liakhovich, Brewster, and RJJ seem the most beatable just because they were smaller than Wilder. Brewster and Sergei would be rolling the dice with their respective gameplans. In Jones' case, he would probably not be able to hurt Wilder. I still think Brewster could knock out Wilder without much trouble and Sergei L. could box him up with the skills he showed in an all timer vs. Brewster. Byrd could get tagged and KO'd, but would have to be a fluke. He could tag and beat up Valuev who was too stationary to have a functional defense against someone who could easily reach his chin.

I also think Corrie Sanders would be a massacre, he would punch Wilder so much. He was everything Wilder wasn't: smooth puncher with fast hands. Just preferred golf, really.