How would Wilder have done vs. Wlad from AJ fight?

Yeah thats true , but you must undertand the difference between Wlad and posters on the internet. lol hehe

 

he was cautious against Ortiz's counter punching ability.

 

I believe that Wilder knocks out Wlad. Wilder is too fast. If you notice, every time that Joshua came forward, Wlad went down. Wlad only did well when Joshua stood there and boxed with him. Wilder would not box with Wlad.

 

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Bingo and you’re being generous

 

How so? That's like saying Chris Arreola was a better finisher than both Wilder and Joshua based on common opponents. Yet Wilder knocked out Arreola when Wilder had a torn bicep AND a broken hand.

That's a fact.

Any common opponents Wilder and Joshua have, Joshua fought them AFTER Wilder had already knocked them out. And you wouldn't catch me jumping up and down if Wilder knocked out Charles Martin in one or Dominic Breazeale in six.

I still can't figure out why Joshua even fought Molina, especially after Wilder stopped him.

Wilder is a better finisher, because when he gets a guy hurt, it's over. Joshua isn't nearly as aggressive.

In fact, the Takam stoppage was considered a joke. He was just going to ruin Joshua's perfect stoppage record.

 

There's a reason why Wilder never tried to unify when Wlad was champion. We all know what happened when they sparred, sure it's just sparring but Wlad toyed with him.

Wilder would get out boxed. If Washington could out jab him, Szpilka take rounds of him and Ortiz out box him then Wlad would box rings around him in first gear.

Wilder is too tentative when in a competitive fight. You have to pressure Wlad to take him out of his rhythm, that's how Joshua got him in the end by taking the fight to him, getting off first and applying more consistent pressure.

Wilder has a punchers chance and will try and do what he did vs Ortiz and ambush Wlad and hope to suddenly turn the fight his way with one big punch. But we saw how that worked for Haye, he was left hitting thin air for most of the night as he failed to applying consistent pressure, Wlad's too good defensively to just walk into a shot.

Wilder's tentativeness will allow Wlad to get off first and when Wlad does that he's in control. Wlad likely KO's Wilder inside 6 rounds.

 

I'm not so certain Wilder's technique was/is good enough to get by Wlad.

 

Those guys weren't flattened in their careers like Wlad was, though.

How many times has Wlad been on the floor? It's more than a dozen, I know that.

Of course, Wlad is a better boxer. Of course, Wlad would be the favorite. I just don't see Wlad's chin holding up.

Wlad wouldn't get close enough to Wilder on his own in the first six rounds to knock him out.

A guy who has been on the floor 12 or 14 times isn't going to go the distance with Wilder. You have to be made of MUCH sturdier stuff.

It just isn't going to happen.

Vitali likely stops Wilder. Wlad, no.

 

Wilder wouldn't have gotten up from the knockdown. He'd have stayed down and collected his paycheck.

 

Yeah, there's a reason. Wlad didn't pick him. He chose Fury first.


Klitschko Thinks Fury Fight Is Next, Then Deontay Wilder

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK – Wladimir Klitschko quickly mapped out his foreseeable future after beating Bryant Jennings on Saturday night at Madison Square Garden.

The 39-year-old Klitschko expects to encounter England’s Tyson Fury in his next fight. If he defeats Fury and WBC champion Deontay Wilder wins his first title defense, Klitschko thinks he and Wilder could meet in a full heavyweight title unification fight early in 2016.

“I just got the news that it was my free title defense against Bryant Jennings and now I have to go back to being obligated to defend my titles,” said Klitschko, who defeated Philadelphia’s Jennings (19-1, 10 KOs) by unanimous decision (116-111, 116-111, 118-109). “I have mandatories. I don’t know who is exactly in the line, [which] one of the federations it would be. But the way it looks, Tyson Fury is going to be my next challenger.”

The 6-foot-9, 260-pound Fury is the WBO’s No. 1 contender. The 6-6, 245-pound Klitschko owns the IBF, WBA and WBO titles, but his fight against Jennings was an optional defense.

Klitschko made a mandatory defense of his IBF title on Nov. 15, when he knocked out Bulgaria’s Kubrat Pulev (20-1, 11 KOs) in the fifth round in Hamburg, Germany. The No. 1 spot in the WBA’s heavyweight rankings is vacant (Jennings is rated No. 2 by the WBA).

While Klitschko typically fights in Germany, the hulking Ukrainian seemed at least open to the idea facing Fury (24-0, 18 KOs) in England, where the colorful Fury has become a big draw.

“I think this fight needs to happen in Europe,” Klitschko said. “It’s a good European fight. As the champion of the world, you travel and fight different places. I know that he’s also the [WBO] mandatory [challenger]. Obviously that’s something that I hope that I have to do, to defend my title, the [WBO] title at least. And then with Fury fighting [me] in Germany or in Great Britain, that’s something that we have to figure out. Where the location of the fight is going to happen, I don’t know yet. But that’s what we need to work on in the next weeks and days.”

Klitschko (64-3, 53 KOs) also appeared intrigued by the prospect of fighting Wilder (33-0, 32 KOs), a former sparring partner from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who attended the Klitschko-Jennings fight.

“That’s true – one belt is missing,” Klitschko said. “It was in the Klitschko family, but I never owned the WBC championship. Such a unification fight against Wilder would be fantastic. It’s not going to happen in the next fight of mine, because I think Deontay needs to defend his title [for] the first time. After he [wins] it, then probably such a fight can happen sometime in the beginning of next year.”

 

Another great post.

 

it's true

 

Wilder and Wlad didn't fight because Wlad fought Fury first and stunk out the joint.

Can you imagine if Wilder had faced the Wlad who Fury beat?

Wilder would've destroyed him.

 

Dubblechin maybe you overlooked the link I posted earlier. You said you need more evidence than chef (wlad’s cook who posts on here from time to time) I posted the evidence you requested.
Here is another link this time the sources is former middle weight champion Andy Lee who was in camp and he also verified than Wladimir dropped Wilder multiple times.
Hope this helps.

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