How would Wlad fare against the post-Marciano linear champions?

He loses to them all. Cause everyone hates Wlad.

 

* Patterson
* Johansson
* Liston
* Ali
* Frazier
* Foreman
* L. Spinks
* Holmes
* M. Spinks
* Tyson
* Douglas
* Holyfield
* Bowe
* Moorer
* Briggs
* Lewis

Beats the bold.

Probably wins a fight with with Lewis going 1-2 against him.

It's also possible he beats some others. Such Foreman, Bowe and Holyfield.

 

im sure bowe could KO him in middle rounds

 

* Patterson - W UD
* Johansson - W UD
* Liston - L KO 7
* Ali - L UD
* Frazier - W MD
* Foreman - L TKO 8
* L. Spinks - W KO 10
* Holmes - L UD
* M. Spinks - L MD
* Tyson - L TKO 9
* Douglas - W TKO 10
* Holyfield - W SD
* Bowe - W MD
* Moorer - W UD
* Briggs - W UD
* Lewis - L UD

(If all were prime for prime... some are hard to call though)

 

The W's are Wlads wins and L's are his losses.

 

h2h wlad is a hard prospect and is competitive v every heavy of all time.

and eze`s list is pretty good.

i do think he would have struggled v the ferocioness of a 21 year old tyson, but maybe he would have beaten the tyson v holyfield.

its always hard to be not biased when comparing good fighters of today v good fighters of yesteryear because what always happens is that you remember all the dodgy perormances and off nights of modern fighters ,where you tend to think of the older fighters in there best fights, when at there absolute peak and not all there off nights and poor performances as well.

say larry holmes for example

v gerry cooney , holmes was up for it, razor sharp. and virtually punch perfect, and you say holmes will beat wlad.

v carl the truth williams , a tall 6.4 jabber with not much power/weak chin, but good jab , holmes stuggled and eeeked a win ,but when comparing holmes v wlad it is always going to be the cooney holmes that is used for comparison.

and the same with all other fighters when this type of hypothetical comes up.

 

hard to say. i think wlad matches up well with boxers like Ali and Holmes, not to say he beats them.
Agressive/pressure fighters will give him problems though like Tyson and Foreman.

Lennox has a similar stalking style but Lewis holds big intangible advantages that make this his hardest fight to win.

Here's my guess on how Wlad fares:
* Patterson -- Wlad by mid-round stoppage
* Johansson -- Wlad by early stoppage
* Liston -- Liston by late stoppage
* Ali -- Ali by late stoppage (60's Ali)
* Frazier -- Wlad/Frazier by late stoppage (toss up fight)
* Foreman -- Foreman by mid-round stoppage (70's version)
* L. Spinks -- Wlad by mid-round stoppage
* Holmes -- Holmes by pts
* M. Spinks -- Wlad by late stoppage
* Tyson -- Tyson by mid-round stoppage
* Douglas -- Wlad by late stoppage
* Holyfield -- Wlad on pts/Holyfield late stoppage (toss up fight)
* Bowe -- Wlad on pts
* Moorer -- Wlad mid-round stoppage
* Briggs -- Wlad late-round stoppage
* Lewis -- Lewis late-round stoppage

so, i'd say somewhere between 9-7 or 11-5. the two coinflip fights are Frazier and Holyfield.

Frazier had trouble with power and is giving up 7 inches of height and 8" in reach. And let's face it, although good head movement, he took a lot of punches. He was also a one-handed fighter for the most part, a great one, but one-handed nevertheless. Wlad studies his opponents about as well as anyone today and could exploit this early. And while Peter had Wlad down 3x (closest style to Frazier), he has extrodinary long arms and a rabbit punch is his arsenal. Brewster, another similar type style gotten pounded on for 11 rounds. I think Wlad can touch Frazier a lot and hurt him but the longer it goes, the better for Frazier. Then again, Wlad has shown he can carry his power very late in fights recently, round 12 vs. Peter and round 11 vs. Thompson

But Frazier has about an equal chance of surviving the onslaught and dodging enough big punches to wear down Wlad late. I think he could handle Wlad's straighter punches better than Foreman's hooks/uppercuts like he did against Ali. Wlad punches harder but they both throw fast, straighter right hands. Some guys just handle them better.

Holyfield had major trouble with long boxers. The Bowe/Lewis jab gave him fits. But Holyfield could walk through almost anything and if he fired off his wicked inside combinations, he could put wlad into 'panick mode'. I think Wlad would turn it into a clinch fest in an effort to wear him down. But at the end of the day, Holyfield is not as small as Frazier and is very strong.

But these 2 fights come to one thing...can wlad avoid the big punches long enough to stop frazier/hoyfield or for the duration of the fight? Wlad is not very resistant to punches obviously but he spoils his opponent's offense about as well as anyone today via the jab, clinching, movement....If these fights were 12 rounds, i'd think wlad would match up far better against these two.

Forced to make a call, i'd say wlad beats Frazier and loses to Holyfield....so that's 10-6 with 9kos....imo, Wlad is 50-50 with 70's Ali and a strong favorite against 90's Foreman...

 

I think Wlad would beat a shot Tyson (Post 2002 - 2003), and he may beat the older versions of Holmes and Foreman but if they were all prime then they have the edge against Wlad.

 

imo i think wlad h2h beats liston /holyfield/bowe/ more times than he loses

h2h wlad matches up well v rope a dope ali
ali of the cleveland williams beats wlad all ends up.