How would Wladimir do against previous lineal HW champs?

I do not. Have you ever seen Wlad intimidated? I guess it's possible - there's never been someone with his aura in this era - but I just doubt he's any less steely entering the ring. If he gets nailed early, that would fluster him and give Tyson an edge, but I'm not sure that would happen. First off, Tyson had trouble reaching up to hit guys who were 6'5" and up. He's such a short dude that he couldn't get nearly as much leverage on his punches when aiming high. Second, he was always susceptible to getting clinched, and he generally lost fights where his opponents could do that effectively. I think he tries to get in there and tag the chin, but fails 4 times out of 5.

 

LOL at ppl calling Wlad-Lewis a 50/50. Lewis is better at EVERYTHING than Wlad and he also has an inside game and some guile. I can't be arsed to go through the rest of the list, Wlad's never beaten anyone remotely comparable to anyone on there, and he labours to late KO's against guys on that list would have knocked out quickly.

 

anything is possible.... i think lennox would take the majority

but all it takes is a power 1-2 from wlad on lennox chin, or a nasty left hook to knock him out

 

I don't think he is considered by most to have been the lineal HW champ because of that fight.

I guess it also depends how a person defines establishing a new lineage once the current champ retires as Lewis did.


BTW--why is Bowe not on the list? He had more claim as a lineal champ than VK did.

 

lineal titles mean **** all anyways.

What kind of system puts more stock in briggs vs Foreman than Holyfield vs Tyson?

Insanity.

 

I think Wladimir murders Dempsey. Too good on the outside and too strong on the inside.

Tyson is interesting. It seems equally likely to me that Tyson will stop Wlad in two as Wlad jabbing and Clinching until Tyson tires beofre stopping him around 10. Can't pick.

 

Wlad is a better defensive fighter and, while he gets hurt easier than Lennox, has better recuperative abilities.

The more I think about it though, the more I favor Lewis. I think his greater aggression would make the difference.

 

Vitali Klitschko TKO7 Wladimir
Lennox Lewis TKO5 Wladimir
Mike Tyson KO2 Wladimir
Larry Holmes MD12 Wladimir
Muhammad Ali UD12 Wladimir
George Foreman KO3 Wladimir
Joe Louis TKO12 Wladimir

Wladimir UD12 Evander Holyfield
Wladimir UD12 Joe Frazier
Wladimir UD12 Sonny Liston
Wladimir TKO9 Floyd Patterson
Wladimir UD12 Rocky Marciano
Wladimir KO8 Jack Dempsey

 

Vitali ko by6
Lewis ko by 5
Holyfield LUD
Tyson ko by2
Holmes Ko by 10
Ali LUD
Foreman k by 3
Frazier ko by 7
Ali- LUD
Liston k0 by 4
Patterson WLAD ko6
Marciano ko by7
Louis Ko by 3
Dempsey Ko by 2

So Wlad wins one.




Keith

 

Vitali Klitschko -W12
Lennox Lewis - KO by 6
Evander Holyfield - W12
Mike Tyson - KO by 3
Larry Holmes - KO by 10
Muhammed Ali ( 70's version) - L12
George Foreman - KO by 2
Joe Frazier - KO by 7
Muhammed Ali (60's version) - L12
Sonny Liston - KO by 5
Floyd Patterson - KO6
Rocky Marciano - TKO 9
Joe Louis - KO by 6
Jack Dempsey - KO by 8

 

you're an idiot

 

This :deal

 

He would do well against all except young Ali, young Foreman, Lennox Lewis, his own brother and prime Evander Holifield.

 

:deal

 

Lennox beats Wlad-Ali wins-Foreman wins-Holmes in his prima wins. Wlad is good in this garbage era but I still question his heart when pushed hard which hasn't really happened much.