How would you ATG rank Fury, AJ, and Wilder RIGHT NOW?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ikrasevic, Aug 3, 2025 at 11:12 AM.


  1. ZiggyBowie

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    Fury is top 20 for me. AJ and Wilder struggle to make the top 30
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it's completely false to claim everyone thought Aj was the best heavyweight in the world at any point. It wasn't even a vast majority, look at past threads and past polls before 2019, I know plenty thought Wilder would KO him pre Ruiz because I was in those debates. The moment Wilder blew Breazeale away joshuas stock took a dive.

    I will say this for the last time, Retrospect is always a valid lense and the most sensible one
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    Retrospect is fine. But it doesnt change what was.

    At the time you along with everyone else ranked him number 1
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is utterly false, everyone didn't rank aj as number 1. Pointless to keep repeating it
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    You did. We all did.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not everyone, and he was overrated thats for sure. Let's make that distinction. The whole forum wasn't even on a consensus, plenty of people thought Wilder was better
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    Whether he was over rated or not means nothing.

    He was rated number 1, by you.
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Means nothing to you. It means plenty to me, since you think my opinion means so much. He was overrated by the definition.

    Whether or not anyone thought he was the best heavyweight in the world doesn't automatically mean such when it wasn't the consensus nor did he ever fight Wilder or Fury to establish his superiority
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    It still doesnt change anything, you ranked him number 1, same as everyone else.
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But everyone didn't rank him number 1 so your point is moot

    You literally thought Wilder would beat aj and this was after Fury mauled him
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    None of that changes AJ was ranked number 1.

    I thought Dubois would beat Usyk in the rematch, doesnt change Usyk was ranked number 1.
     
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  12. fencik45

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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is undisputed champion, took joshuas belts and dethroned Fury. He had already beaten Dubois once before. The result was obvious

    Guess what, aj beat none of them. He never even fought his rivals. He was never the man at heavyweight and his resume is mostly old men, thats why he's locked out the top 20
     
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  14. lufcrazy

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    Tyson knocking out Douglas was obvious as well.

    What matters is AJ was ranked number 1, and Norton never was.
     
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  15. fencik45

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    Fury never fought his rivals either, aside from bum ass Wilder....
     
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