How would you describe Wilders career so far?

If you are going to objectively ****yze a fighter's career, you got to be accurate. This distorted BS is fine when you are trolling, but not when you are doing a serious thread.

1. He slipped against Nichols, period. Not matter how much you try to alter reality.

2. He got knocked down by Sconiers, not out.

3. Firtha never rocked him with a jab, he was backing away from it and was off balance for a second.

4. No proof he bought Malik Scott to take a dive, that's just speculation on your part.

5. Rocked by Haye in sparring is not really a shame. He took a flush shot from him and didn't go down. David Haye was a top fighter with not to shabby power.

6. Still no evidence anywhere he was dropped by Wlad with jabs in sparring.

7. He didn't go life or death with Stiverne, he dominated and controlled the entire fight. Stiverne didn't win a single round. That's not going life or death. That's a dominant decision. If your definition of life or death is that fight, then every fight in history where there was not a knockout was life or death. I guess Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy was life or death to huh?

8. Stiverne was never knocked out by Demetrice King, he lost on a horrible stoppage.

9. Wilder's third opponent hasn't even been announced yet, so you can't call him weak. And Povetkin has done just as much to delay it. He could have had Wilder in the ring already, but he took the Wach fight instead.