How would you progress Groves's career in the next 12-18 months?

That doesn't mean the only other option is Groves-Degale though, the fighters will just take other routes like the European or top 30 Americans.

Groves-DeGale is not going to happen until its worth a damn site more money than it is now. As uppercut says, they are not going to split £200,000 this year when they can split £2 million (or whatever) in 24 months.

 

thats taking a big risk though.

 

Yup, but its also a lot of money. Don't forget both fighters/ promoters will be earning in the meantime. For what the fight is worth now against what it could be worth in 18 months/ 2 years then its a risk worth taking.

 

but they can both come back from a loss. go on and become world champions, fight again

 

Yep, and one of them will have lost for £100,000 and stalled their career for a year when they could have done the same thing for £1 million if they'd have waited.

C'mon Rob, you like think you are clued up on the money side of the sport, you know I'm right. It makes no sense to anyone involved for these guys to fight each other at this stage of their careers.

 

This is the problem with so many titles.

It's not as bad as the light middle farce (doubt anything could be) but it's just frustrating.

In fairness Hayemaker put their lads in tough, and Warren is doing better than previously.

The main problem with Warren is that he never puts his lads in with people that can crack an egg, hence they all get found out one after the other once they get cracked.

 

Sorry to snip your post BB but I've said this all along. Whats changed is the lack of bottlenecks in between British prospects and their route to the world title.

In the past Groves and DeGale would have fought in either a British or, more probably, a European title fight with the winner going on to a world title shot.

There are just so many titles and routes to a world title these days that fighters don't need to take these "showdown" fights in order to progress their careers and advance to a world title shot.

Thats just the way the sport is today I'm afraid.

But, TBH, even in the "good old days" of the 70s and 80s Degale vs. Groves would still not be getting made for at least another 12 months or so.

 

yeh i get what you mean and if i was groves or degale managment i wouldnt want the fight yet. but groves team do and degales team want a domestic title. the only way of getting that title could be a fight with groves.

 

As I've said often, I speak as a fan.... these Benn vs Eubank rivalries are one-offs rather than regular occurences.

Some average domestic fights are being left to simmer for some bizarre reason..... obviously this is an above average domestic affair, but still - the let's wait while they hold world titles thing doesn't sit well with me.

Each to their own of course, it's all a matter of opinions.

 

Even as a fan, I would rather see Groves vs DeGale in 12-24 months time.

 

A few more domestic defenses then give him a decent name on a US undercard someone like pemberton or Sheika

 

Look for the Euro title within 12 months. Meanwhile go for guys who will give him a test. Wouldn't mind seeing him in against Quigley and Dodson before some Euro guys like Gutknecht who's just fought for a title. Then Magee obviously.

If that path doesn't come off then after one or two more seasoning fights why not go for the likes of Miranda and Zuniga?