How would you rank these lightweights?

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  1. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    In order from greatest to least?

    Henry Armstrong
    Beau Jack
    Bob Montgomery
    Ike Williams
    Jimmy Carter
    Joe Brown
    Carlos Ortiz
    Ismael Laguna
    Ken Buchanan
    Roberto Duran
    Guts Ishimatsu
    Esteban DeJesus
    Jim Watt
    Alexis Arguello
    Ray Mancini
    Edwin Rosario
    Livingstone Bramble
    Jose Luis Ramirez
    Hector Camacho
    Greg Haugen
    Vinny Pazienza
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Pernell Whitaker
    Tony Lopez
    Freddie Pendleton
    Rafael Ruelas
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Oscar De la Hoya
    Stevie Johnston
    Shane Mosley
    Jose Luis Castillo
    Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
    Acelino Frietas
    Diego Corrales
    Joel Casamayor
    Jesus Chavez
    Juan Diaz
     
  2. bxrfan

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    First there is Barney Ross.

    Than the rest of the lightweights.
     
  4. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    I'm saying out of these lightweights, how do you rank them from greatest to least?
     
  5. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After work and done eating, I think of a ranking of the ones I know. Have a feeling Armstrong, Brown, Arguello and Chavez might be tops there.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll rank them in terms of h2h ability. I'm going to put someone like Chavez before Ortiz and that would not happen if resume at lightweight was being taken into account. But this list is simply based on who I think beats more lightweights than anyone else.

    Roberto Duran
    Henry Armstrong
    Pernell Whitaker
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Carlos Ortiz
    Ike Williams
    Alexis Arguello
    Bob Montgomery
    Beau Jack
    Esteban DeJesus
    Ken Buchanan
    Jimmy Carter
    Joe Brown
    Shane Mosley
    Oscar De la Hoya
    Ismael Laguna
    Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
    Hector Camacho
    Ray Mancini
    Jose Luis Ramirez
    Edwin Rosario
    Stevie Johnston
    Jose Luis Castillo
    Freddie Pendleton
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Jim Watt
    Greg Haugen
    Livingstone Bramble
    Diego Corrales
    Acelino Frietas
    Guts Ishimatsu
    Joel Casamayor
    Rafael Ruelas
    Vinny Pazienza
    Tony Lopez
    Jesus Chavez



    Juan Diaz - Haven't seen enough of him to say, so I'm leaving him out.
     
  7. Manassa

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    I really don't think Henry Armstrong deserves to be second unless you think he was one of the very best lightweights, rather than accomplished. I'm guessing that's the case, seeing as you also rated Julio Cesar Chavez above Carlos Ortiz and Ike Williams (although I would pick both over him anyway).
     
  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does Armstrong being second surprise you? Where would you personally put him in a h2h lightweight list?
     
  9. Manassa

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    Head-to-head, he's top five. Accomplishments, I usually have him around eighth.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Just wondering why you left Leonard Gans and Lavigne off was it because of how far bck they fought? Armstrong ,imo is at least a p4p no 4 ,but he did comparatively little at the weight,I eould put Williams then Duran as the top two,there are some on there that are not more than good fighters,certainly not greats,imo.Hard to rate this division it is possibly the deepest of them all.
     
  11. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't really follow anything non-heavyweight before Henry Armstrong, because I have to rely more on reports than film.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's reasonable.