How would you rate Lewis

You're a ****ing idiot.

Lewis got the rematch BECAUSE HE WAS THE CHAMP!!

Now go back to colouring in your book.

 

Crap!

Beat Holyfield twice and to date YOU still cannot define when Holyfield's prime was.

 

i can't believe you wasted time typing that **** in...the klitschko part made me feel sick...what is wrong with people today?

 

When I saw Marciano above Louis I gave him a chance.
When I saw Frazier at 5 I stopped reading.

A wothless post.

 

give me your top 10 list?

 

Well, if you start changing ACTUAL results to suit your way of thinking, then give it away. Seriously. He beat Vitaly, and he beat Mercer.

Same way Lewis beat Holy once and drew once. You can't change the result, no matter what.

I do account for the KO losses, absolutely. And if rematches don't erase a loss, then Holy's in a world of **** with Bowe and Moorer. Or don't they count either?


YOu can ****ing skew anything you want. This is directed at "Holy is best of his generation"

Lost twice to Bowe, only won when fat and because of Fan Man and Bowes wife being carried away. Was in a world of trouble before that.

Had 103 seconds to get up and recover from being KD by a B class fighter. (was in just as bad a shape as Lewis v McCall).

Was outboxed by a former light heavyweight.

Fought too long and got stopped by an ex middleweight.

Never fought a Non US fighter in his prime. Never fought outside of his home country.

Nobody can actually nail down his "prime". Probably because there were too many losses in the middle to actually nail down a 2 or 3 year period.

Beat a Tyson who had fought something like 5 rounds in 5 years. But yet is hailed as "an almost prime Tyson" as a victory. but is suddenly "old and shot" when losing to Lewis 18 months later.

 

Do you know anything?

Lewis had to wait years for the McCall rematch. And that only happened because Don King worked it that way because he thought Lewis would **** himself getting back in with McCall.

The Rahman rematch was a standard rematch clause that a lot of CHAMPIONS have in fights.

CHALLENGERS don't generally have rematch clauses. You take your chance or you don't. Bad luck.

 

People need to just stop putting Holyfield and Tyson over Lewis, it's getting stupid.

 

Okay, you've convinced me to stop posting in opinion threads.

I can tell that super fans are just too ****ing insecure.

I won't give an opinion anymore. You win.

 

Steady on mate.

You can post opinions but I can't, that what you saying?

I'm not a 'super fan' by any stretch. I can hear arguments that place Lewis anywhere from 3 to 20 in heavyweight history, and agree with most of them. All depends on what you prefer.

I just don't think you can make a pick where you change history, or apply one set of rules specifically to one fighter only, and let other guys pass on it.


Knocks on Lewis? Easy.

KO'd twice by guys he shouldn't have been.
Could be lazy and unmotivated against guys he didn't consider on his level.
Fought down to level of competition at times.
Nearly always had a size advantage.
Could be very sloppy and right hand happy banger before teaming up with Steward.

Might have gone over the top quoting you, when most of reply was aimed at Zakman, who's top 10 heavyweights include Holyfield in the first 9 spots.....

 

If you actually wanted a debate that is one thing, but just trying to convince me to change my position like I put no thought into it just turns me off.

Might as well be a mayweather fan at that point.

 

Lewis beat everyone he fought, Holy gets pts for being a smaller HW and I admire him heaps etc but Lewis overtook him in the greatness stakes

Lewis is ATG and head2head he beats just about everyone

 

You might have a point.

You nasty *******.......