How would you rate Marvis Frazier

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  1. steve1990

    steve1990 Member Full Member

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    Your opinions on Marvis Frazier?
     
  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster Idealism must not be staunched by safety Full Member

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    Lowly

    He didn't have that many fights, only 21 of them, and 2 of those are 1st round knockouts (one of those knockouts against Holmes, who was never regarded as a heavy puncher). He was a stepping latter for Tyson and Holmes. An easy title defense, and an easy step to a title. His best wins are against an aging Bugner and Tillis, which is pretty awful, but truly those wins show he was an overachiever at least. He didn't have his father's chin or skills.
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty decent. Suffers in contrast to his Pop. Certainly not a top contender despite the shots he got. Controversial won against Bonecrusher but a decent win over Tillis. Depends on what you are comparing him to, or what your expectations of him were. Decent fighter, good guy.
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Would have been an excellent cruiserweight.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I rate him as a near casualty who's just lucky to be able to open a can of lima beans by himself after those two disasterous ko losses that we remember him for.
     
  6. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    Great as a amateur and showed alot of promise, but having his dad as a trainer wasn't a good idea, Frazier wanted his son to fight aggressive like he did but marvis didn't have his dad's power or chin. He did move well and a had a good jab and had he had a trainer that would have refined his own style better which would have been a out fighter he probably would have done better, better but wouldn't have ever been a world beater at heavyweight.
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    He showed a pretty good skill set under Benton. Joe ruined his style.
     
  8. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He really wasn’t as bad as people remember but obviously the two standout memories of the 1st round knockouts suffered against Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson is what many see as what defined his career. Holmes who had a underrated right cross just caught him with a peach of a punch and the rampaging young Tyson that he met was just a few months away from making history by demolishing Trevor Berbick and becoming the youngest heavyweight title holder.

    Marvis did have some decent wins against James Broad and Joe Bugner leading up to the Holmes fight and beat James Tillis, Jose Ribalta and Bonecrusher Smith before being matched with Tyson. His greatest weakness wasn’t his chin as those who seeing the early KOs against Holmes and Tyson might think but the lack of power in his punches. Sizewise he grew bigger than his papa Joe but unfortunately seemingly inherited just a fraction of his strength and power.
     
  9. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    1/10 the fighter his father was
     
  10. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, Marvis did manage to beat Joe Bugner easier than Joe did. :smile:
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That says more about Joe Bugner than it does about Marvis or Joe Frazier however.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cincinnati Cobra Full Member

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    That's generous
     
  13. George Crowcroft

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    I think him vs Butterbean is a 50-50...
     
  14. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A reasonable contender in poor eras such as the 30's, 50's
     
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  15. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Marvis Frazier goes 10 hard rounds with Holyfield and he'd be labeled a true warrior just like his father. He has some solid wins under his belt but was pushed too soon against Holmes. Give him a couple more years and he'd be a solid Top 10 heavy in that talented 80's mix.

    Good fighter with a lot of heart and even a greater human being. Really, really good guy.

    Unfortunately he'd have to face Tyson sooner or later...
     


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