How Would You Rate Mayweather, H2H, at Each Weight?

Why was Hearns ready for a fight with prime Leonard after 32 fights yet Alvarez not ready for a fight with old Mayweather after 43 fights? I don’t get it.

 

You already said that Manny was faded in his fights against Bradley. The ones against Bradley before he fought Floyd. Manny was also injured, where he had surgery 5 days later. There was nothing great about that win.

Everybody knows that Shane was faded then. A win over Marg didn’t change that.

Again, Manny agreed to every demand, yet the fight only took place a few year later, after he’d been iced by JMM.

 

Stop looking for loopholes.

Mosley, Manny and Cotto weren’t at their best.

Stop twisting George’s questions.

 

Great post. But I can’t see how he’d have been even money against Mike.

 

Brutal.

 

I guess Leonard has a case, although he only had a fight or two there.

I wouldn’t put McCallum, Tito, Benitez, Norris, or the others ahead.

So he’s number 2, unless you put Roy and Leonard ahead, in which case he’s number 4.

 

Have a word with yourself man.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, thinks that Shane was in his prime against Floyd.

Stop being silly.

You’ve accused people of twisting things to suit their agenda, yet that’s exactly what you’re doing yourself.

Shane had a great win over Marg. But his prime was years earlier. You know this. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Again, you dismissed Manny yourself before he fought Floyd.

Do you really expect people to believe that Manny was a better all around fighter when he fought Floyd after being iced by JMM?

Stop it.

 

Every fighter ages differently, depending on their styles and their circumstances.

 

Great post.

 

Fair enough.

There’s enough footage of him at MW though, in order to assess his attributes. And it’s common knowledge that his absolute prime was at WW.

That’s more than enough for me.

Also, the versions of him at MW would have seen him fight as a JMW today.

 

In the way they approached the fights.

The Leonard fight wasn’t too soon for Tommy in my opinion. But I believe that fighting Floyd was too soon for Canelo. He was far too tentative. He showed him far too much respect. He wouldn’t press him at all. He seemed overawed by Floyd’s speedy counters and the occasion.

The current version of Canelo would never have stood off of him like that. And I don’t mean today’s SMW version. I mean mentally. If today’s version of Canelo was still fighting at JMW, it would have played out differently. I’m not saying that he’d have beaten Floyd, as Floyd was an unbelievable fighter, even at 36. But IMHO, Canelo would have been much more calculated and confident.

 

He obviously wasn’t. He hadn’t even learned how to clinch when gassed.

 

I disagree with everything you posted but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

Hearns also hadn’t fought more than 12 rounds at that point in his career but like I said before, prime or not largely depends on your agenda.

 

Mike McCallum was a much better JMW than Floyd.

He was in his prime and he was an absolute technician.

He knocked out Donald Curry and Julian Jackson.

Floyd struggled with a faded and inactive Oscar and beat a faded Cotto.

His great win over Canelo was at a C-W.

Floyd obviously doesn’t have a strong resume at JMW. He only had a handful of fights there. Which means that you can only rank him at JMW on a H2H basis, based upon his ability. But even if you do that, you can’t rank him above a peak version of Mike McCallum.

The versions of Floyd who fought Oscar and Cotto weren’t as good as Mike McCallum. Not a chance.

You can’t rate Floyd above Winky at JMW.

Personally, I couldn’t rate Roy at JMW. Not after only having 2 official fights at the weight.