How Would You Rate Mayweather, H2H, at Each Weight?

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  1. derekcantona

    derekcantona Member Full Member

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    I didn't say I ranked them over them... I see them as quality wins in the same vein.

    The whole 8 division thing needs to be reined in. Pac turned professional very early - didn't Floyd fight at that weight at the same age? That's the difference here, Floyd had a bit of an amateur career as a result of coming up in a developed country. To be fair, I also don't weigh Pacquiao's early losses so heavily - I can be objective here. You're intimating that Floyd didn't fight quality opposition throughout his run but it really isn't the case here. His flaws in his resume and inconsequential early career negate any possibility of being above Floyd, and that's sealed with the poor showing in the H2H - and it was a poor showing.
     
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  2. shza

    shza Active Member Full Member

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    Nope, I like Floyd & didn't insinuate that at all. I actually said that he went 50-0 fighting quality opposition because he did. I see your point regarding Pac's turning pro early but we'll have to agree to disagree as I wouldn't rate amateur accomplishments as highly as championship level pro fights... It is what it is. We can definitely agree on the head to head though.
     
  3. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But that’s just the thing tho literally every fighter on history has had an off night, except for Mayweather and even on his off nights he’s still on game enough to win. Mayweather has shown the ability to adapt to pretty much all styles.
     
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  4. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well one thing you could also say is that Ray admittedly fought contrary to his style in fight I because of all the constant goading by Duran, which allowed the match to play out to Durans advantage.
    You could also reasonably argue that Mayweather might be one of the best at getting into an opponents head, for as much respect as I have for Duran this era severely underrated Floyd I would guess due to personality, with Duran fighting in same day weigh in era he would be bigger than say a JMW in today’s age and honestly with Mayweather’s win over Canelo who KO’d a LHW Champ it opens up more possibilities as to just how far Mayweather could actually go all time at some of the higher divisions..

    but Castillo II & Maidana II type of fight yea it’s very possible Mayweather could stick to the outside jab and move mix in occasional power shots, while tying him up when he gets too close, in a ugly rough affair, wait for the break rinse and repeat.. the difference between Mayweather and most of these fighters is even when he boxes on his toes he’s still within range baiting openings for his counter punching also you have to factor in his unpredictability with him being able to land out of every look. Hands of Stone is an ATG and Maybe top 10 but we’ve seen him lose seen him be outboxed, and beaten in the ways the Mayweather is best at so for me I can see it being a close affair.
     
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  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're half right.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He are, this sounds fun.

    1973.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Agree 100%. Hearns is like the anti-Floyd.
     
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  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I was about to reply but stopped because responding to you will give you some validity that’s unwarranted so I will ignore your BS.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma lands more punches than Floyd who was often just a good pot-shotter, Floyd is a good defensive fighter not my kind of fighter and hugely overrated, I really don`t think he was that good.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pbf catches that little short armed dude with straight right hands as he tries to come in. He was dropped by Linares by a right hand pbfs straight right is 10000 light years better faster powerful and more accurate than Linares, he would drop and hurt loma. You're not outworking a guy you will have trouble landing on in the first place and won't be able to establish a jab against. Pbf is faster than loma has better reflexes and is much longer. Loma can't dictate distance and control range on a guy with PBF's attributes. Hell he couldnt outbox Lopez ffs. Pbf is a horrible styles match up for Loma and it's easy to see for people who know boxing. Both outboxers but one is bigger and faster and a better counter puncher. A blind man can see this is a worst case scenario for Loma.

    Lastly you're talking about pbf being overrated yet you're talking up Loma a guy who lost to a 12 loss fighter in salido and got embarrassed by a limited and flawed slugger in Lopez. Lmfao!!!! Are you serious?? Atleast we know where this delusional is coming from you admitted you didn't like the guy.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Name the prime all-time great he beat then.
     
  12. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi, Looks that I had get who you are in some other forums.
    Dude who hates Loma so much that brings in every thread where Loma is mentioned his " loss " vs Salido.
    Also you are pressing report buttons in forums when someone gave you lesson.

    Dear poor KID.
    For me looks that you are in a lot ENG language forums for damn long years and hate Loma so much my KID form kinder garden.

    Dumbass, to conversate with you is waste of time and remember, you are joke.

    Maybe do not pay for VIP accounts in some forums and stop masturbate about Loma threads.

    I had gave you nice lessons in some other forums.
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now you do not deserve my time and continue to sit in YT comments, boxing forums and **** on Loma.
    While you never in your life had even sparred normally vs any one who is a bit larger than you.
     
  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Looks like you either need to use the spell function on your device or take spelling and diction lessons.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    First off dummy this is the only boxing forum I'm on. :deal: Secondly I don't push alert buttons jackass. Thirdly I don't even know who you're. You've never schooled me that never happened you have me confused with someone else. You didn't refute one single thing I said about this match up why??? Because you can't. I didn't even bring up how pbf if he wanted to could bully and beat up loma on the inside because he's more complete and can fight on the inside unlike Loma.

    Don't get mad at me because I'm telling it like it is. Loma lost to salido and was scared to throw for 6 rounds against Lopez and was dropped by a straight right hand against Linares those are facts and they need to be brought up. If you don't like it too bad.

    Lastly I like loma I'm not a Loma hater I picked him to dominate Lopez but he didn't. Loma is a great fighter but some fighters are simply greater and are horrible styles match ups for him. That's boxing.