How Would You Rate Mayweather, H2H, at Each Weight?

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Show me PROOF he ever cheated or STFU & admit Tony is Floyd's Daddy
    Floyd was terrified of him as we all know. The ONLY think you Floydettes can think of to try & avoid that fact is to keep repeating the loaded gloves lie. It really is pretty sad you know Pimp
    Elite ATG HOF boxers dont need to cheat with ILLEGAL IV's administered in their own home 24 hours before running round a boxing ring for 12 rounds.. 36 minutes. Plus when he got caught he had the state commission claim he did nothing wrong. Nah he was only trying to flush the ped's out ROFLMAO
     
  2. derekcantona

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    You sound troubled.
     
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  3. Loudon

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    He wasn’t willing to fight the best available.

    He wouldn’t fight Manny in his prime. We all know this.

    He deliberately cheated JMM on the scales.

    He retired for 18 months when the WW division was hot.

    He sucker punched Ortiz.

    He wouldn’t let a fellow JMW champion weigh in at the limit, making Canelo weigh-in at a 152 C-W.

    He wouldn’t let Maidana wear his preferred gloves.

    When he finally fought Manny, he took an illegal IV which the NSAC had no knowledge of, until 3 weeks after the fight.

    Now I don’t know about yourself, but I know that I don’t need a degree in psychology, in order to know that a guy who carried himself in the examples above, would not have signed contracts to fight guys like Leonard, Hearns and Duran etc, back in the 70’s and 80’s.

    A guy who wouldn’t fight Manny in his prime and Canelo at 154, was never ever getting in the ring with Leonard and Hearns. No chance.
     
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  4. Loudon

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    Which ATG did he beat who was prime?
     
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  5. derekcantona

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    You once said you are objective. How the **** is this objective?

    Freddie Roach is on record as saying that Manny's team held up the fight. Given Mayweather's falling out with Top Rank, you don't see it?

    **** Ortiz - he got the fight after a surprise win against Berto and tried to break every rule in the book to get some kind of edge in there. He failed.

    **** Maidana's gloves.

    Who gives a **** about TUEs? How many fighters have them? We all know it's because of Mayweather's brittle hands. What advantage do you think this gave him in there? Pacquiao ran out of ideas after round 1.

    You're bothered by Canelo weighing in at 152 beforehand? What was the weight differential on fight night? You're probably one of those guys who think that Mayweather should give him a rematch at Super Middleweight at 44 years of age.
     
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  6. 22JM

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    Mayweather at his best was at 130 and 135, At 130 and 135 Chavez beats him due to styles, Jose Luis Ramirez has a chance at 135, Duran at his best beats him in any weight.
     
  7. Loudon

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    Freddie Roach gave countless interviews over the years, and the one posted is always that same one.

    Freddie said they could have accepted Floyd’s demands. Well, yeah. They could have. But then Floyd could have accepted Manny’s too. And no matter who said what, the fact is, Manny agreed to every one of Floyd’s testing testing demands around 2 years before the fight was made.

    The fact that the fight didn’t happen until May, 2015 should tell any logically thinking person that the testing issue was never the sole reason for the fight not having happened sooner.

    Regarding the other points, it doesn’t matter if you think that they weren’t of importance. The point is, a guy who acted in that manner, was not a guy who’d have fought Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns.

    Nobody would sign to fight Hearns at 154, if they wouldn’t fight Canelo there.

    Nobody would fight a prime Leonard at WW if they wouldn’t fight a prime Manny there.

    We are looking at the man’s character here.

    Based on his actions and his comments throughout the years, my predictions aren’t hard to work out.

    They should be obvious to anybody.
     
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  8. derekcantona

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    Yeah, but they didn't. If my aunt had balls and all that...

    The rest of your arguments are supposition.
     
  9. Loudon

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    My opinions are 100% logical based upon his comments and actions throughout the years.

    Again, you don’t need a degree in psychology to work it out.

    Also, I wasn’t talking about a TUE, I was talking about the PEDS that he clearly took before he fought Manny. And that was an absolute joke. Because PEDS were supposedly the reason why he wouldn’t fight Manny years earlier.
     
  10. Pimp C

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    Don't ruin another thread with your bull**** you will say anything to be heard. Everyone that knows boxing knows margo is ****.
     
  11. derekcantona

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    To the OP, can I suggest that perhaps there's a hint of nostalgia bias involved here.

    You're inviting people to take the absolute prime versions of super featherweights - light middleweights on their best ever nights and comparing them to Mayweather - Maidana or Castillo. That's how some people are weighing this up.

    You think Duran never had **** nights in the ring? He was inconsistent.

    You think Benitez was always awesome?

    Whittaker? Mayweather wins that 8/10, better on the front foot.

    Fab 4 with Mayweather - make a Fab 5, accept they're mostly toss up fights except Hagler is probably too much and leave it at that. No need to denigrate a great boxer like this.
     
  12. derekcantona

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    'My opinions are always 100 % logical'

    Wow.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    Pac wouldn't fight pbf in his prime we all know that. Who pulled out of the talks and ran off to fight Clottey? Even roach admitted it was their fault in a video you've seen 100 times but you continue this myth and put it on pbf. Why? You're not a troll you're a respectable poster.
     
  14. ElCyclon

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    OK. Name ONE prime ATG on Floyd's resume!
     
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  15. Loudon

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    You really think a Hearns fight would have been a toss up?

    Really?
     
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