120 from 110 is a much bigger jump than 180 from 170...not good.:nono This system is biased against smaller weight groups.
Yeah...my percentage increase in weight is regular...from just under 4% to 10%. If you have a regular increase in weight to go from 120 to 200, you need too many weight divisions, so you need a regular increase in the percentage increase.
40 Junior Fleaweight 85 Fleaweight 90 Junior Paperweight 95 Paperweight 100 Junior Notminimumweight 105 Notminimumweight 110 Flyweight 124 Junior Extraextralightheavyweight 125 Cantweight 126 Mega Lightweight 165 Light Averageweight 160 Averageweight 179 Heavy Averageweight 200 Ultramegaweight 209 Fatpieweight Perfect. Actually, no... seriously just leave them as they are - they are fine!
220 pds of solid muscle vs a 250 pd tubby is FINE. 220 pds of solid muscle vs 250 pds of solid muscle...Bit of a mismatch. Size isn't quite everything. Haye is going to do well in the HW division, but fact is he WILL NOT beat somebody the size of Wlad. He's not tall enough, he's not strong enough, and he is very good....BUT not that good. Some people bring up Tyson only weighing around 220, but forget the fact he was only 5'9-5'10, and built like a tank! 5'10, 220 pds, and probably only 4-5% body fat...Uhh, yeah, that's a massive guy right there. 6'3, 220 pds...Not quite so massive. And Wlad has been knocking out people his weight with ease (cept the last fight). What makes you think he couldn't dispose of somebody only weighing 220? I take geen ku doe (bruce lee's martial arts), and like I said size isn't everything...When it comes to something like street fighting. It's easy to break somebodies knee, gouge there eyes out, kick them in the groin, go for the throat. It doesn't matter how big you are if I do that to you, but that **** isn't allowed in boxing. They have an old saying "A good big man always beats a good little man." and I *guarantee* if Hayes fights a good big man...that's exactly what'll happen.
They are not fine:nono ...they jump up: 3 lbs, then 4 lbs, then 3 again...then 3, then 4...from strawweight to super bantamweight; then 7, then 7, then 6, then 8, then 7 from light welterweight to supermiddleweight; then after having increased by 8 at the most, they increase by 25 lbs from LHW to CW, in one go!!!:nut Some drunk senile old fart must have made these weight-divisions... Heavyweight - over 200lb (+91kg) Cruiserweight - 200lb (91kg) Light heavyweight - 175lb (79kg) Super middleweight - 168lb (76.2kg) Middleweight - 160lb (72.5kg) Light middleweight (super welter) - 154lb (70kg) Welterweight - 147lb (66.7kg) Light welterweight (super light) - 140lb (63.5kg) Lightweight - 135lb (61.2kg) Super featherweight (junior light) - 130lb (59kg) Featherweight - 126lb (57.1kg) Super bantamweight (junior feather) -122lb (55.3kg) Bantamweight - 118lb (53.5kg) Super flyweight (junior bantam) - 115lb (52.1kg) Flyweight - 112lb (51kg) Light flyweight - 108lb (49kg) Strawweight (mini fly or minimum) -105lb (47.6kg)
This is a spread sheet, so the format isn't exactly as it seems, but the idea was to raise the percentage as the weight went up in a linear fashion. I took 120 as a start and added 5% to get 126. And so on. If you stop at 200 (199) then you have 11 weights, down from 17. I think I figured the current stuff was about 5% per weight class once when I looked, but that was a while back. That is why I started at 5% 5.0% 120 5.2% 126 5.4% 133 5.6% 140 5.8% 148 6.0% 156 6.2% 165 6.4% 176 6.6% 187 6.8% 199 7.0% 213 5.0% 100 5.2% 105 5.4% 110 5.6% 116 5.8% 123 6.0% 130 6.2% 138 6.4% 146 6.6% 156 6.8% 166 7.0% 177 7.2% 190 7.4% 203 7.6% 219
Good job!:good Can you do one starting off with an increase of 4% and ending up with an increase on 8% starting at 120 and finishing around 250, in 13 divisions, tops? I think this one would be even better.
I have no problems with the current weight classes. I have an issue with the BS that exists within the orgs and overall. As long as the best fight the best? Its all good.:yep
Not and keep the math simple. Or not on the time I have available. You could spread the heavier divisions out some though. You already have weight mismatches there anyhow. Kick 222 upt to 225 and then push 240 up to 250. Also, why not just push 159 to 160? That way MW and SM stays the same. Edit. Rounding errors in the last column. Just there for quick reference anyhow. Spread sheet document. 4.0% 120 5 4.3% 125 5 4.6% 130 6 4.9% 136 7 5.2% 143 7 5.6% 150 8 6.0% 159 10 6.4% 168 11 6.9% 179 12 7.4% 191 14 7.9% 205 16 8.4% 222 19 9.0% 240 22
ffs folks......the trouble with the weight divisions today is the casual fans can't grasp the minute differences. random numbers like '112', '126', '154' and '168' coupled with confusing weight division names don't help. its very easy to come up with a 'formula' but look at the numbers. 'the one-hundered and fifty-nine pound division'. gimme a ****ing break. this would probably be the most fan-friendly way: HEAVYWEIGHT - NO LIMIT CRUISERWEIGHT - 200 LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT - 180 SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT - 170 MIDDLEWEIGHT - 160 WELTERWEIGHT - 150 LIGHTWEIGHT - 140 SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT - 130 FEATHERWEIGHT - 125 SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT - 120 BANTAMWEIGHT - 115 FLYWEIGHT - 105(minimum)-110(maximum) Weigh-in the morning of the fight. One champion per division, no 'regular' champs. 13 rounds, 5 judges. One organisation runs everything. TV companies bid for 1 years rights to show the fights. No 'promoters'. No cherry-picking. No catchweights. Champions always pick the venue. Champions only fight mandatories, must fight twice per year unless injured etc. Only get a title-shot in another weight if you are already a champion in an adjacent division. Otherwise work your way through the rankings. So no champions in welter getting a title-shot in super middle. This would basically make boxing like other professional sports. But alas, it is the way it is and we have to live with it. It's always going to be a sport for the hardcore fans and the public will never be interested for anything other than the odd marquee fight.
108 fly 118 bantam 127 feather 135 lightweight 140 light welter 147 welter 154 light mid 160 middle 170 supermidd 180 light heavy 201 cruiser heavy i like tradition and do not want to spoil the history of the sport , so basically just deleted a lot of divisions and only tinkered slightly with the light heavy and relativley new super middle.
Boxing wasn't broken and when they "fixed" it, they ruined it. Best remedy isn't to bring more changes it's to remove the ones already made. 8 weightclasses (screw the sanctioning bodies and their fees) 1 title per weightclass (see above) 15 round fights (screw tv scheduling)