How would you recalibrate/change the weight-classes?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You like tradition? Fancy that, from a Brit!:D

    Tradition is good but what I don't like is the crazy jump of 10 pounds from 108 to 118 (9.3%) compared to an increase of just 3.7% from 135 to 140...come on, sean, this is very discriminatory for the fly that can no longer make weight and needs to fights a natural bantam, compared to the lightweight who fancies a go 5 pounds north...and there's still 20 pounds difference between cruiser and LHW...just like that, from 10 pounds max increase previously...:-(
     
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  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    The system they had before was even more crazy. They had a division called LHW at 175 pounds and the next one up was HW, which wa 200+...in other words, if you could no longer make 175, you had to fight the 220+ guys...:patsch
     
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  3. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    way way to many fighters at minumum/light fly/super fly/

    gives them a chance to avoid each other.

    if you look at the frames and body types of top minumum to fly`s there is not to much difference.
    same if you are a top flyweight then jump to bantam is not huge power/size/height wise.

    whereas go up in weights and muscle mass increases significantly .

    not worried about the gap between light heavy and cruiser being 21lb as i do not advocate jumping through divisions and prefer fighters to dominate at 1 weight if they can.

    i see no problem in a light heavy putting on 5 to 10 lbs and fighting at 185 v a 200lb man.

    this was the norm in the heavy division in days gone by.



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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    But with your system they can avoid each other by going up 5 lbs to light-welter...there's a lot of fighters hanging about the 135/140 mark...why do you allow them to jump so easily from one to the other then?
     
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    If we really have to cut down on the bottom divisions, let's just start at 120.

    Here's 11!

    120
    125
    130
    135
    142
    150
    160
    172
    185
    200
    200+

    Why isn't this good, sean, puting tradition to one side?

    Compromise of three things:

    1. fewer weightclasses
    2. sensible increase in weight
    3. more round and traditional numbers
     
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  6. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    the 135 and 147 are traditional so i kept them.

    140 halfway house is needed

    it is actually quite rare to find run of the mill 135 champs do anything above that weight , same as it is in light welter at welter.

    whereas at lower weights i think many do get away with it.

    duke mckenzie was a decent fighter but imo if he was a lightweight , no way would he have been a 3 weight world champ as he was at fly/super fly/bantam, in fact he would have just been a single weight world champ.
     
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  7. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    i saw it and it makes sense , but i do not like it because of tradition.

    to use an anology , to me its like making the olympic 100 meter race 110 meters and then everything that has gone before loses a little relevence.
     
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  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :p

    Surely, you mean...making the 100 yards dash the 100 metres...still cannot get over that!:verysad

    ...see what I mean? Now, we no longer worry about the 100 yard dash...we worry about the 100 metres...10 metres difference but still the same relevance, no?:good
     
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  9. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    airfields of the eighth then and now.
     
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  10. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    Thanks :good
     
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol: :good
     
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  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would keep them as they once were with a minor adjustment (cruiser) to allow for bigger heavyweights.

    200+ Heavy

    175 -200 Cruiser



    Under:

    175 Light heavy

    160 Middle

    147 welter

    135 light

    126 Fearher

    118 Bantam


    And hopefully ONE champion in each weight class !
     
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  13. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    :D
    sorry its a book i am reading at the moment and my answer to your post timed out and i copied and pasted my reply , but an earlier paste came out somehow.

    good book:Dl
     
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  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    This one's not too bad, the more I think about it...:think

    Traditional - tick!;)

    Fewer, so you have to fight at your ideal weight and cannot avoid others - tick!:happy

    Proper jump from 160 to 175 - tick!

    Only problem is the big jump from 175 to 200 again...still not happy with that...160 to 175 is a good jump...but 25 pounds is a lot!
     
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  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I will use this expression from now on when justifying why something should be kept unchanged for the sake of tradition, in your honour, sean!:D
     
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