How you rate the heavyweights at present?

Tyson Fury

AJ - Wilder - Usyk

Joyce - Yoka

Whyte - Parker - Povetkin - Ruiz

 

For top fighter of who i think we beat the most other HWs at present rather than resume I would go with following

1. Usyk - The most technically gifted boxer. Excellent footwork, anticpation, judging the distance and superior ring IQ.

2. AJ - Has beaten much more top HWs than any other HW at present and is the most proven. Can box on the back foot as shown against Patker and Ruiz, can brawl as displayed earlier in his career and can mix it up as shown in his fights against Wlad and Pulev. Best uppercut in the division.

3. Fury - High ring IQ and elusive fighter but theres a lot questions need answering on just how good Fury is since coming out of retirement as we are unable to tell due the poor quality of opponents fought since coming out of retirement.

4. Hunter - judges distance well, fights with dogged toughness and aggression and just a overall well rounded fighter.

5. Povetkin - One of most proven resumes and one of the most powerful punchers in the divison coming off his career best win.

6. Parker - between him and Ruiz for the quickest hands and toughest chin in divison.

7. Whyte - Great left hook,Good jab and works the body well. Has an impressive resume.

8. Ruiz - See Parker.

9. Joyce - Tough, constant pressure ,high volume puncher and workrate will cause anyone in the divison problems. Although slow and very poor defensively.

10. Hrgovic - carries good power and is is a very good combination puncher. Although does tend to stand too upright and stick his chin too often.

11. Pulev - Very good jab and decent ring IQ. Lack of head movement and slow footwork.

12. Wilder - powerful right hand but the most flawed and limited fighter on the list. A cherry picked very padded recrod. Has had even average fighters such as Spzilka, Washington, Molina and Duhaupas cause him issues.

 

T Fury

Joshua
Wilder
Usyk

Ortiz
Hunter
Joyce
Pulev
H Fury
Parker

I would say it is something like above. I think there is Tyson Fury, a couple of levels above any of them, then a second division, were nothing really between all 3. Then a big drop to rest. Would add in Hrgovic, Ruiz and Whyte in or around that group. Have not included Povetkin as it was clear in beating Whyte that his legs had gone. Would fully expect all top 10 to beat him including Hughie Fury, as Povetkins legs and balance had not gone when they fought.

 

Fury
AJ
Wilder
Usyk
Ruiz
Povetkin
Whyte
Hunter
Parker
Joyce

 

Wilder at 12 who has lost to one man arguably the best in the division who he nearly chinned in the previous fight yet a relatively unproven HW in Usyk at #1 ?

LOL

 

Usyks (who is was undisputed champ in a very good CW divison) talent is clear to see whilst Wilder (who hasnt beaten any top fighter) flaws and limittations are clear to see.

If this was based on HW alone resume then I wouldnt have usyk in the top 10 with only 2 HWs fights (atlhough in just 2 HW fights Usyk has already got as good as win as Wilder has done at HW). However this top 10 list is based on who would beat the most HWs right now.

 

I think people overrate the division. Wilder has a bomb for a right hand and I just don't see many heavies with the ability to avoid it for a whole fight. Wilder will always be behind on rounds but he will get to most eventually.

 

1. Fury
2. AJ
3. Wilder - Still in 3rd even though he's done mentally and only a matter of time before he disappears from the top 10
4. Povetkin - Longetivity and the KO of Whyte
5. Usyk - In 5th based on what he did at Cruiser, still done little of note at HW
6. Ruiz - Like Wilder don't think it'll be long before Andy disappears from the top 10, he's made his fortune from the AJ fights, doesn't care anymore sadly
7. Hunter
8. Whyte
9. Joyce
10. Parker

 

He’s pretty poor, but the reality is you only need to have a tremendously powerful shot to be a player in this division. And his right hand is absolutely devastating. The division lacks fighters with good defensive qualities. Fury and Usyk the evident exceptions. Chances are he hits you. And if he hits you, chances are it going to ****ing hurt. If his confidence is shot from that last fight then he’ll shell up and offer nothing ever again though.

 

It's quite interesting to see Hunter so high on the majority of people's lists, he hasn't fought in a year and I doubt he would have been this high up a year ago, I think it says a lot about how other fighters stocks may have lowered in that time. I rate Hunter mind.

 

Who? I wouldn't confidently back anybody from 3 down to still beat Ortiz and thats not saying i think Ortiz is class its just the division is so poor. maybe Usyk?

When you can arguably put 2 shot 40 year olds in the top 10 then that speaks volumes about the quality and a huge reason why Wilder can be rated highly.

 

You have over 10 fighters with more impressive resumes than Ortiz. I just don't undertand why people rate Ortiz over these guys.

 

Same way you 'rate' Rivas.