How You Score a Re-Watched Fight

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MonagFam, Apr 5, 2013.


  1. MonagFam

    MonagFam Member Full Member

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    This is sort of a two parter --

    1) Do any of you (or is there a thread with these discussions already) have a specific method to scoring that you employ in each fight.

    2) When retroactively scoring a fight you have already watched, do you do anything different? How do you handle "knowing" what has occurred or how you may have scored before?
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I just watch each round and score them. If I agree with the judges I'll leave it there, if not I'll rewatch it every few months and see if I can agree with them.
     
  3. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I:

    -favour aggression and not running away
    -weigh a few power shots more than numerous soft jabs
    -elusivity (who slipped more punches)
    -good counterpunching
     
  4. JDezi4

    JDezi4 Guest

    If I actually care enough, I'll score the fight from 2 different prospectives, in favor of one fighter, and in favor of another

    And then, months later, I go back and try to score it evenly

    But the first time I watch a fight, I am a fan, and therefore don't bother scoring becuz it will be filled with bias
     
  5. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like the previous poster said, I like to go back and score favoring each side.
    I'm usually biased.
    Two examples:
    As a Patterson nut-hugger, I saw the Floyd-Ellis bout on TV live as a 15 yr. old in 1968. I broke a patio chair afterwards thinking he was robbed. Years later, I got the tape and have watched it many times.
    Two things stood out.
    >the old cliche says you have to take the fight to the champion in order to win.
    >Floyd may have given rounds away due to his passivity (he did this many times in his career (should have went 2-0 vs. Quarry)
    Although I still may believe that Patterson won the title for the 3rd time, I now don't see it as the robbery I once thought it was.
    Jimmy Young-Ken Norton:
    After the fight, I thought Jimmie clearly won this chess match of sorts.
    But after repeated viewings, I can't totally dispute a Norton close victory. Often judges will reward the aggressor which Kenny was, tho Jimmy seemed to have a ''slip and slide'' answer for all of Norton's body attacks and Jimmy in the 10th was a thing of beauty! Lastly, referees don't judge fights in Nevada and the ref (name escapes me) said that he thought Young prevailed.
    But, again, it was a close fight.
    My $0.02
     
  6. MonagFam

    MonagFam Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the comments. I am trying to do better at scoring, or at least feel like I am doing it as well as I can. I notice that I catch myself giving rounds to a fighter that might be losing -- for example Fighter A wins the first 5 rounds cleanly, and the first close round I might give to Fighter B without really making a clear cut decision based on what I've watched, but how I've scored up to that point.
     
  7. zoe

    zoe I Love Boxing & Dogs Full Member

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    You can save your cards online at http://www.eyeonthering.com/. (I helped put that site together, so I'm biased, and think it's cool.)

    Most of the more focused fan friends of mine keep notebooks too. It's nice to have all the cards in one place, to go back and see and remember fights (esp fights you've seen live).
     
  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I rarely score opening night. I'm too amped and talking amongst everyone. I usually just watch it at home, with a drink.

    A scorecard and my own gatdamn baxin' knowledge. I do favour the cleaner landing fighter.
     
  9. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I feel I might do this as well sometimes. It's hard not to.

    I think I also sometimes score unfavorably for the fighters I root for, oddly enough. Overcompensating for my own perceived bias, I guess.

    Sometimes the results make you re-watch to score in a different light. I tried re-scoring Bradley-Pac in ways to conceive of such a scenario where Bradley draws or wins. It wasn't inconceivable to give him a draw based on activity. The HBO crew was simply horrendous in that fight. Of course, Pac's effective punching had him rightfully winning in the eyes of 95% of the boxing public. It wasn't a 11-1 or 10-2 type fight, though.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I try not to put much stock in my first viewing cos I'm usually pissed and I'm a sucker for hype.
     
  11. scribbs

    scribbs Member Full Member

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    Same criteria for any fight otherwise what's the point. A second viewing you may see something a little different but I don't score a fight if I have a drink which is rare anyway. The only time I will usually go for a second viewing to score is if my concentration was taken away during the fight but I tune out from other distractions so that's a scenario that's comes along once in a blue moon. I stick by my original verdict even if it goes against the consensus opinions.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    10 to the winner of each round 9 or less to the loser.
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Really depends on your mindstate at the time of judging. The first viewing I know I'm not going to pick up as much so I take it as neutral as I can. Then the ones after I pay attention to more subtle things like balance, hand positioning, reactions to being pressed, commitment to leading,etc.

    I may favor harder punching over more work thus getting a different score after juding it twice before.
     
  14. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest I only try re score I am a mile out with my score and everyone else agrees with the judges. If it is something like Calzaghe v Hopkins which I had Hopkins winning a close decision but I can see how someone could go the other way I dont bother. It is hard when you already know the outcome to try get another score going and I tend to just end up angry at why nobody else sees it my way and just score it the same as when I watched live.
     
  15. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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