How's this for new scoring,eEliminate judges...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PaoloMirani, Jun 19, 2012.


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  1. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ....and just tabulate and round out press row scoring. Have each press guy scoring a fight enter their scores in a computer, so you have about 40-50 scores from "educated" boxing scribes. Get the average, and presto! There's your winner. No talks of robberies ever again, and no sourgraping when it's a close fight. Thoughts?
     
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  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Nah too many of these guys have personal biases and agendas. Not only that many simply don't know how to score a fight and have no training.
     
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  3. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a lil pretentious to say that a guy who gets paid to write about boxing don't know how to score a fight. As for personal agendas and biases, the sheer number of scores tend to eliminates and balance it out. Bigger sample size is a better reflection of how a fight actually went. As oppose to 3 judges who also have their own personal biases and agenda. Think about it, if you wanna rig a fight...bet a million bucks on a significant underdog. Is it easier to "influence" a couple of judges or a whole press row?
     
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  4. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They don't though. Rafael is probably the most well-known well-compensated US boxing journalist and he's produced some of the shittiest scorecards in the recent past. Berto-Ortiz a Berto win, Alexander-Matthysse and Alexander-Kotelnik clear Alexander wins, Hopkins-Pascal II a draw, etc.
    I am all about increasing sample sizes, but this would be better accomplished by increasing the number of trained judges, not relying on the opinions of what are largely gossip columnists who simply happen to write about boxing.
     
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  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Here's a better idea, score the fight based on Compubox. Whoever lands the most punches in a given round according to Compubox wins the round. Or how about this, score fights like American Idle. Viewers can vote in a poll, and the fighter with the most votes wins.
     
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  6. esrotak

    esrotak newbie +1 Full Member

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    How much? :roll:
     
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  7. 10oz

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    no rounds fight until one drops or quits. no judges required ;). bring bk london prize fight rules
     
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  8. Jimbob

    Jimbob Active Member Full Member

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    Journalists would probably be even less trustworthy than official judges. I'm sure most of them would welcome the perks of the job they would recieve for scoring a fight in the way certain promoters would want them to.
     
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  9. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lemme reiterate, sheer volume. You singling out Rafael...key word "singling" out. So one bad score doesn't override 49 others scoring it. The idea here is to get a median score. And seriously, to say that boxing writers don't know how to score fights is like me saying you don't know how to score fights just because I don't agree with you. At the end of the day, the opinions of the Doug Fischers, Steve Kims, Chris mannix's of the world, holds more weight than the ESB "i've been to a gym so ydksab" wannabe expert.
     
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  10. futurechamp10

    futurechamp10 Active Member Full Member

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    You do know that compubox is just two guys with 4 buttons in front of them, one for jab connect, jab missed, power punch connect, power punch missed?

    It's a complete pile of rubbish.
     
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  11. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes I saw the sample size point and was merely pointing that it's silly to assume boxing writers are particularly qualified to do the job.
    And the opinions of trained judges hold more than journalists with often comfy connections to promoters. Beyond that, if we're so concerned with getting a median score from a good sample size, why not poll everyone watching the fight or everyone at the arena?
     
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  12. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    press row cant't score for ****. scoring is tough real time. after watching paq brad in slow mo i can easily see brad being givin the nod. paq didn't land **** all night and i mean paq missed wildly with 99% of his shots
     
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  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I thought it was pretty clear that I was being sarcastic.
     
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  14. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty sure that post was sarcastic mate.
     
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  15. futurechamp10

    futurechamp10 Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry bro, thought you were a ******* for a minute, can't tell the difference these days :rofl
     
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