How's this for new scoring,eEliminate judges...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PaoloMirani, Jun 19, 2012.


  1. they_killed_kenny

    they_killed_kenny Underdogs on top :) Full Member

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  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  3. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    5 judges+ open scoring+ judges being made available to the media int he post fight to answer to why they scored a certain way is the best I can come up with. Used to hate open scoring but in light of the horrid decisions this year I think it would help, we could see a robbery coming from a mile away.
     
  4. PaoloMirani

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    I said if this were to happen than there'd be no more robberies and no sourgraping over close decisions....implicit to that would include the Marquez decision, which would mean if the majority of press row had JMM winning there would be no whining about it, and you'd have Marquez as the winner no questions asked. Yes douchebag, Imma Pac fan, but this was a totally objective proposal.
     
  5. Thatman

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    Hell no. Could you picture Skip Bayless.

    Manny could be knocked down 2 times in one round and Skip would find a way to score it for Manny or at least not count the KD's.

    Hell no!
     
  6. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, because press guys can't be bought.


    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  7. PaoloMirani

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    The logic here being that it's easier to buy off three judges from the same stae (a gambling state at that) as opposed to 50 writers from all over the country 50 writers....making sense to you now or are you still rolling on the floor laughing?
     
  8. Thatman

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    And those in the press are allowed to favor a fighter over the other.

    The judges are not supposed to favor one fighter over another, just as a ref in the NFL is not supposed to favor one team or another, or an umpire in baseball is not supposed to favor one team over another.

    The media however, can favor one team over another or one fighter over another.
     
  9. Brickhaus

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    That's pretty much how they used to do it a long time ago, but the problem was that you could never officially give someone a win or a loss that way (plus that got corrupted as well). Just check any early 1900's fighter on Boxrec and see how most of their fights usually came from "newspaper decisions" rather than official judging.
     
  10. PaoloMirani

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    Reporters (from reputable organizations) as a general rule are paid to be objective. So just like judges are paid to be objective, it should follow then that unless it's a hometown writer, or someone from fighthype, scorecards are a reflection of that professional objectivity.
     
  11. Thatman

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    And Chris Berman is paid to be objective. Doesn't mean his favorite team is not the Buffalo Bills and San Francisco 49ers.

    Your idea is ****, and that's why so many in this thread are giving you **** about it.

    Atlas had a good idea and that was to show to the fans, using a monitor or the TV, how the judge was scoring the round at that time.

    Atlas had a bar up on the screen with a center mark; each fighter was placed on one side of that mark; then, as the round played out, he would have the mark to either side to show you who he felt was winning the round. This would leave little doubt in anyone's mind as it would be live to the fans, media, and fighters themselves.
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    That might work if they put accelerometers and g sensors in the gloves and if there was some way to ignore the shots to arms and such.
     
  13. Cableaddict

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    I've said this before. Very easy to do, including radio transmitters. Shots to gloves and arms could be ignored by having a magnetic coating on the gloves and arm sleeves, with sensors for that. (though I personally think shots to the arms should count.)

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    But jeez,

    Everytime I see one of these "ways to make boxing scoring more accurate" threads, I just crack up:

    There are LOTS of ways to improve scoring accuracy, keep judges honest, etc. Don't you think that "the powers that be" know this? THEY DON'T WANT ACCURATE SCORING.

    - and here endeth the discussion.
     
  14. PaoloMirani

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    For people who don't get the concept of bigger sample sizes overriding potential personal bias....yeah sure it may seem like ****. And besides, if you know someone has a personal bias for one fighter, why would you include them in that pool of scorecards. Think genius...would you include scorecards from filo and mexican press in a pac/marquez fight?
     
  15. Thatman

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    I get it. I really do. I'm simply pointing out that it's more bias then using 3 judges.

    ****in *******s man, you have to explain everything to them in depth. This guy didn't even think I got what he was saying but I did.:patsch I just dissagree with it because it puts more bias in the judge.

    So for the 3rd time, the media can be a fan, the judges can't. Just as the media in the NFL can be a fan, where as the ref's can't.