How's Tony Tucker Do In The 1950"s?

Tucker was only half decent. His whole career he never beat hardly anyone who was trying to win.

Tucker was good enough to hold his own with good fighters. That’s it. And it would be the same in any era.

He would never be a dominant fighter.

 

Lastarza wasn’t a bum. He was one of the best defensive fighters of his day and when he met the rock for the first time he was 37-0. Tony Tucker never really “ boxed the ears “ off of any GOOD fighter. About 95% of his record consists of trial horses, and of the very few decent men he beat he struggled mightily with them. James Douglas was a fringe contender at best in 1987 and he was leading tucker through must of ten rounds before he got stopped. It was only the hindsight matter of Douglas beating Tyson years LATER which made that win rise in stock. The Orlin Norris and McCall decisions were indecisive at best. There’s also the other matter of your comment about the rock being crude. He actually used good upper body movement, could slip the jab and was lethal with both hands.

 

Tony Tucker never really demonstrated an ability to use his height to great effect against short fighters. Of course, Mike Tyson was an excellent extraordinary fighter but Tucker was badly outjabbed by him at times, and Orlin Norris was not on Tyson's level and possibly outboxed Tucker too.

Tucker was a skinny 177 pounder at age 21, so he was naturally not a huge heavyweight either. He beefed up to 199 pounds for his pro debut and took several years to grow into a conditioned 221 pounder.

So he wasn't some huge monster of a type that was unheard of in the 1950s.
Not by any means.

 

The level in the 80s was better than in the 50s, and so were the athletes.
The good boxers of the 80s would be great in the 50s.
The top dogs of the 80s (Holmes, Tyson) would mop the floor with anyone in the 50s, Liston being the only exception.
Therefore, it would be easier for Tucker to box the ears of guys like La Starza and Marciano

 

Lastarza is only talked up by Marciano worshippers, he never beat anybody with a pulse while not a bum he is and was a Nobody.

Lastarza aint going the distance with Prime Tyson.............he is lucky to see the second round.....

Tucker was more skilled , had a wide variety of punches , a granite chin and was a fluid operator but he did not have the extra 3 % up stairs to be great.

Not a excuse, after the Tyson loss Tucker went MIA on a major close to 4 year coke bender............he was never the same again, still good enough , with some Don King help to give Lewis a competitive bout while washed up.

Before the Tyson fight it stands to reason he would white wash Norris and McCall...............and still won washed up years later.

Before or after the Coke bender Tucker beats Lastarza 10 out of 10.

 

Not if you take away the men that Tucker lost to.

 

You can’t make that generalization about two entire eras though. While the 80s may have been more talented overall, Tony Tucker and the vast majority of the people he beat were not exceptional. Hell tucker was already 30-0 and still fighting men on the level of Bobby Crabtree and Otis Grant. His best win was Buster Douglas and of Tyson had been properly prepared in 1990, most people wouldn’t even know Douglas was today. Now, if Tucker had beaten Michael Spinks, Tim Witherspoon, Tony Tubbs and then really pushed Tyson to the brink, THEN I would make him a favorite over Marciano

 

My point was that Lastarza wasn’t a bum as that other poster said he was.
Thanks

 

Lastarza was an exceedingly protected fighter. Without the Marciano relation, he would be an afterthought to an afterthought.

Tucker destroys him.

 

I just took the opportunity to watch Louis( I know wasn’t 50’s but watched anyway), Charles, Walcott ,Marciano and Patterson and I believe in an actual boxing match Tucker beats them all. This isn’t ranking Hall of Famers but one on one in the ring. I was shocked how slow of foot and hand speed Louis was. Marciano just waited and waited for a chance for a big shot while taking a face pasting. Charles and Walcott were good but too small. That’s why they created a Cruiserweight division. Tucker beat them all.

 

The debate isn’t about tucker vs Lastarza.

 

The conversation shifted. Use a scorepad if you need to keep up.

 

If Tucker was fighting in the 1950s, half you guys would dismiss him as a skinny beanpole with mild power who didn't know how to use his height advantage. Which is one way of viewing him anyway.

 

Yep

 

Him da Tony Tugger.. good jabbings... has some good feeters chinnums was like a da anvil his ticker was strong with nonna da fat... olderTugger no mobilistic.. the honeys love his jerris.... potential not achieved in any area due to hims knees and love a da pwder