https://www.quora.com/Why-isnt-Roy-Jones-Jr-among-the-top-names--Pound-for-pound-OAT

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mark Adam, Aug 24, 2018.


  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,271
    13,300
    Jan 4, 2008
    You're right. Math and alcohol... I'll edit.
     
    Mark Adam and Loudon like this.
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    40,861
    10,270
    Mar 7, 2012
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    40,861
    10,270
    Mar 7, 2012
    There was no cherry picking.

    It's a myth.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,271
    13,300
    Jan 4, 2008
    I'd also liked to see Roy against DM and a couple of other fighters, but "cherry picking" is way too harsh. He certainly faced the best SMW and most of the other top LHWs except himself. A fight with DM should have been made, though.
     
    Rock0052 likes this.
  5. Mark Adam

    Mark Adam Active Member banned Full Member

    837
    254
    Jul 4, 2018
    No, but what about Benn, Collins and Lilles? Jones also stated after losing to McClellan in the amateurs that he would never fight him as a pro.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    40,861
    10,270
    Mar 7, 2012
    A Benn fight was hard to make due to Don King's involvement. He promoted Benn along with Frank Warren. Back then, Roy was handled by the Levin Bros. Fred and Stanley Levin from Florida. They had a deep dislike and distrust of King, and by all accounts, the feeling was mutual. According to Roy and the Levin's, Don wanted to tie Roy down with future options.

    A fight with Liles was just about signed, but Liles blew the fight by going back and asking for more money. That was confirmed by both HBO, and Liles' manager at the time, Jack O'Halloran.

    HBO confirmed that Collins had been offered 7 figures to fight Roy late in 1996. But Collins was only focused with rematching Benn at that point. Then early in 1997, Collins' team returned an offer to Roy. But he'd already moved up to LHW at that point and was in camp to fight Griffin. Then due to the outcome of their first fight, a rematch was signed. Collins then retired. Then 2 years later in 1999, Collins flew to Pensacola to be ringside for Roy's mandatory against Ricky Frazier. He challenged Roy face to face afterwards. Roy accepted. He then told Stanley Levin to make the fight. But there was an issue. At the time, Roy had brought in another advisor, Murad Muhammad. He was brought onboard in the hope of landing Roy the biggest fights available and raising his profile. But both Muhammad and HBO's Lou DeBella, didn't want the fight. And that was because they wanted Roy to unify the LHW division against Reggle Johnson instead. It was a bigger, more relevant fight, as Collins had been inactive for over 2 years, and he wasn't a ranked LHW, having never fought in the division. However, DeBella did state that they could be interested in a fight if Collins came back and created interest. Collins was then due to appear on the undercard of Joe Calzaghe's fight with Rick Thornberry. But he collapsed in training whilst sparring Howard Eastman and was advised to retire. Roy then fought Reggie Johnson and Collins retired.

    Regarding Gerald, I read an interview with Roy where he said that he'd take the fight if he could reach an agreement with King.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    53,345
    45,520
    Apr 27, 2005
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    40,861
    10,270
    Mar 7, 2012
    I'm sensing sarcasm.
     
    JohnThomas1 likes this.
  9. SambaKing7

    SambaKing7 Member banned Full Member

    102
    100
    Aug 7, 2018
    A wise sage once said... "Never trust a man who leaves replies on Quora or Yahoo answers"