Hughie Fury exposed

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I said it from the very begninning, Hughie is overrated, and he will never be as succesful as his cousin, because his cousin can get away with the Fury style being 3 inches taller and 85 inch reach and much heavier.

    Hughie showed up fully in the fight against Pulev, don't you dare make excuses like he abandoned anything in his portfolio. He lost plain and simple, to be fair, they both are boring and terrible.

    Hughie is nothing to hype. So please just give it a rest, I'm concerned about some of you.
     
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  2. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The cut had an impact - up until then he was looking decent, though he was caught with a good shot to open the cut.

    Even so his fitness shouldn’t have fallen apart like that and he clearly still lacks power. He looked soft - if I was a boxer and looked like that I’d be embarrassed.

    Pulev didn’t do anything amazing, just held and rough housed following his shots but Hughie should’ve been peppering with the jab and using his fabled movement to get out of the way.

    Either he isn’t that good or he wasn’t prepared fully.

    He is young but definitely needs to work on his strength and conditioning, improve his stamina so that he can fight like the first round for the whole fight.

    I didn’t think Pulev looked great other than being a lot fitter and stronger. Fury played right into his hands though I think he’d have lost anyway in that condition.
     
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  3. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you want to be optimistic on Hughie's behalf you could argue that Tyson had many of the same flaws earlier in his career when he was struggling with McDermott and getting dropped by Pajcik; obviously lower level fighters than Pulev or Parker. It wasn't really until the second Chisora fight that Tyson started to put it all together and mastered the style that would take him to the title.

    One of Hughie's problems appears to be that he doesn't quite seem to have the right attributes for any particular style. He isn't fast or elusive enough to hit and move, he is too crude and jab too ineffective to be an upright boxer, and he isn't strong or powerful enough to be a brawler. He has size, a pretty good chin, and shows flashes of quality, but it's hard to pinpoint at the moment where the improvement to genuine world class could come from. It's not just a case of him automatically getting better because he is young; those improvements have to be tangible and in areas he can realistically get better at.

    It's not the end of the road for him. He's lost to two top 10 guys without disgracing himself, and had moments of success in both fights. There's plenty of fights out there at Euro level where he can rebuild, or he may even luck-out with a shot against a hyped prospect who isn't quite ready.
     
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  4. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Damn another good poster booted. He is a cool guy the mods need to fix up...

    I respect Hugie for going to Pulevs back yard and fighting...definitely not the end for him. Chisora was right about Pulev he is a sly old fox
     
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  5. kasabian19

    kasabian19 Active Member Full Member

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    As a Fury fan I'm disappointed by the performance and the result, but I'll be 100% objective here.

    Negatives: For me, the combination of poor tactics and lack of boxing IQ were the causes of the loss. Granted, the first two rounds went to plan and Hughie looked comfortable and relatively in control. Obviously the cut changed everything. Hughie was told to try and knock Pulev out in the third, which was understandable as it was a bad cut and I doubt there were many who thought it wouldn't be stopped. The issue for me is what happened in the corner a few rounds later when the cut had been worked on and it was clear that the fight would continue.

    Why was Hughie told to box the way he did, i.e. stand in a corner and set the most blatant and obvious trap? Stevie Wonder would have seen that coming. Why was he not told to to throw the left hook, which Wlad used so well against Pulev? Why was he not told to throw straight rights and uppercuts when it was clear the looping right was not going to work? Why was he not told to go back to boxing?

    Peter Fury is meant to be an amazing tactician and corner man, but he comes off very badly. Hughie isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and doesn't seem to be able to think for himself in the ring/try different things/experiment etc...he does as he is told, so he must have been told to do the same things over and over despite these tactics clearly having zero success.

    I, like many other, were baffled by the tactics. They were really, really poor from round 5/6 onwards.

    Positives: There are two positives here. Firstly - although Pulev isn't a concussive puncher - Hughie showed that his chin is decent. Secondly, the one time he did time the right hand properly he had Pulev hurt badly. Despite some saying he has no power, he clearly does have a solid dig if he lands it correctly. That's a big 'if' of course.

    Where does Hughie go from here?: Back to European and British level for several fights. Forget about world titles and just concentrate on progressing and working on all aspects of his game. I do think he needs to be stronger and more powerful, which can easily be done by adding in some explosive weights sessions a few times per week. Although people always think that weights a bad thing for a boxer, if done correctly explosive power training will have a tremendous impact without affecting cardio ability. A balance can always be found.

    Hughie would never leave his Dad, but I honestly think a change up in his training and preparation for fights could benefit him in the long run.
     
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  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Terrifying thread title this one.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    CutThroatFade was seriously overhyping Hughie lol... that puppy love.

    I was starting to think he was related or a family friend, could he be Tommy Fury in disguise??

    Anyways, it is what it is.
     
  8. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was using words like devastating and brutal to describe hughies punching power, that is why he got booted.
     
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  9. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post. I've been questioning Peter a lot myself since the fight. Hughie's conditioning was also poor. Peter got everything wrong for this fight, from the training to the tactics.

    Hughie's performance was awful, but there's no way he's that bad a fighter. You only have to look at the Parker fight to see that. A very close fight at world level.

    Big changes needed.
     
  10. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    During his interview on 5live podcast before the fight he mentions he believes in old school training tactics and doesn't think 'scientific' stuff is necessary and looking at Hughie's conditioning he is far off a top level athlete. Another interesting angle is what I perceived to be several sly digs at Peter from Tyson during the Joe Rogan interview one was regarding tactics for the Klitschko fight where he said he basically ignored what everyone in his corner was telling him and went out to outbox him. I am a big fan of Peter though and I think he knows his stuff, regardless of what people say I don't think Tyson would be the fighter he is today without his influence.
     
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  11. Felix Sanchez

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    He won't get anywhere 'jabbing' the way he did at weekend. It was laughable, he barely threw anything with any form of authority. The one time he did, he actually rocked Pulev.