Hughie trying to get fight moved from New Zealand

Good points, I only differ on Ward - Kov but then again I was positive Kov won it live, then I was positive Ward snuck it smart in review.

 

If there is a New Zealander, why not a French judge too?

Incidentally is was the Filipino who correctly scored the fight a draw.

 

The Canadian judge for the Takam fight, Benoit Roussel, is French-Canadian and this was supposed to be the French connection to balance the NZ judge. But it was a moot point as the NZ judge scored the contest closer than the other two judges.

Just wondering, why do you dislike Parker? I know you like the Fury's, but both Tyson and Hughie Fury have had plenty of nice things to say about Joseph Parker, e.g.
- Hughie said JP was better than AJ or Wilder. The build-up has been mutually respectful too.
- Tyson congratulated Parker after the Takam and Ruiz Jr fights.

If Hughie wins even half as convincingly as Tyson vs Wlad in Germany, I am sure he will get the decision regardless of location.

 

Parker-Takam fight:
Referee: American.
Judges scores: American 116-112, Canadian 116-112 and New Zealander 115-113.

All 3 judges had it for Parker. The NZ judge was the most generous to Takam.

Where's the conspiracy?

 

Nice to see someone taking the time to research their argument instead of guess.

 

I didn't say there was a conspiracy.

 

I don't dislike Parker.

You are right, the Fury's recognise Parker as a fighting man and an honorable man and that's why they don't have bad words to say about him.

I wasn't suggesting any foul play on the cards, just that it wasn't a balanced panel of judges. Canada and France are two separate countries and not connected in any way. I think Parker won both fights although the Ruiz fight was close, the cards reflected that. I don't think anyone can argue with either decision.

 

I agree with most of that, the French-Canadian link is admittedly somewhat tenuous. However, I think you have to factor in that the NZ judge (Ian Scott) is generally a reliable judge and clearly has not favoured Parker based on nationality.

If Hughie wants so-called "neutral" judges, I'm sure he can have them, if that isn't the plan already. The home advantage for Parker will be his fan's support and cheering at the fight (which is nice, and admittedly can sometimes influence the judges), and comfort fighting out of a place he knows well while Hughie has to make a long trip.

But I don't think the judges themselves will be a problem for Hughie, as you said both Takam and Ruiz Jr got reasonable decisions and I'm confident Hughie will get a good decision too. If the decision is unreasonable, I'll be back to apologize, but there's no extraordinary cause for alarm or Hughie and his team.

 

Another Kevin Barry fighter, Umar Salamov 22-0, will appear on the Parker-Fury undercard.

Salamov will face Emil Markic 24-1 for the vacant WBO international light heavyweight title Andre Ward vacated when he defeated Sergey Kovalev.

 

Once a judge gets invited to judge a big fight in some dude's country, he usually gets some instant bias due to him wanting to be invited once more.
Travelling to another country, nice hotel, payday and such. It's because how the system works, being almost as susceptible for a legal form of corruption as the US "lobbying" system in politics.
Things get worse if you have multiple or even all officials from the same country of course, adding the national bias option to that as well.

In some cases judges are totally fair, or even shift to the other side to remove the idea of home cooking. But usually home advantage is key in a fight.

 

You avoided the question with generalizations and hypotheticals like a born politician.

Here is the question again:

Who were the "biased (home) judges" amongst these?

Parker-Takam fight:
The referee was an American and the judges American, Canadian and a New Zealander.

Parker-Ruiz fight:
The referee was an American and the judges Argentinian, Filipino and a German.

 

No bias - fact proven. At least - beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Yes. Conclusion is that, based on prior evidence, Hughie has no more to fear than if he were to travel somewhere else, e.g. the USA, Germany, Russia, etc., they are all at least as likely (or arguably even more likely) to rob him.

 

This fight isn't happening. So obvious lol

 

Why?