HW and LHW KO rates when counting Newspaper Decisions!

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  1. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So as some of you may be aware boxrec does not count newspaper decisions towards statistics. This seriously effects the KO rate statistics of fighters who fought in the early 20th century when a large percentage of decisions were "NWS". I keep leaderboard files based on this information and I've spent the last few days updating my KO rate lists.

    Here are HW and LHW contenders KO rates if their newspaper decision wins are counted. This only lists the contenders who had newspaper decision wins.


    90.91 Goddard
    90.20 Ketchel
    88.33 Buddy Baer
    86.36 Retzlaff
    85.00 Australian Jim Ryan
    84.09 Fulton
    83.33 Bob Armstrong
    83.33 Berlenbach
    82.98 Slavin
    82.46 Carl Morris
    82.35 Fitzsimmons
    82.02 Carnera
    81.48 Dave Maier
    80.74 Peter Maher
    80.65 Hart
    80.00 Willard
    78.21 Charles McCoy
    78.05 Frank Moran
    76.74 Art Lasky
    75.86 Jack Dempsey
    75.00 Max Baer
    75.00 Steve O Donnell
    74.70 Fireman Jim Flynn
    74.58 Choynski
    74.47 Coffey
    73.08 Jim Hall
    72.73 Munroe
    72.55 Colin Bell
    71.79 Floyd Johnson
    71.05 Kid Carter
    69.90 Elmer Ray
    69.23 Lee Savold
    66.67 Battling Jim Johnson
    66.67 Terry Mustain
    66.28 Cyclone Thompson
    65.25 Tiger Jack Fox
    64.15 Sheppard
    64.10 Brennan
    64.00 Kaufman
    64.00 Tut Ryan
    63.64 Paycheck
    62.92 Wills
    62.07 Jim Savage
    61.76 Gus Ruhlin
    61.72 Langford
    61.19 Schreck
    60.81 Jack Delaney
    60.00 Tunney
    60.00 Tim O Neill
    60.00 Pelkey
    59.84 Jeanette
    58.33 Felix
    57.43 Broullard
    56.41 Tony Ross
    56.25 Jim Barry
    56.14 Peter Jackson
    55.88 Jack Johnson
    55.77 Jim Maloney
    55.74 Siki
    53.60 Knight
    51.56 Stribling
    51.28 Rodel
    50.98 Braddock
    50.00 Dooley
    49.48 Tommy Gibbons
    49.09 McTigue
    48.44 Pierre Charles
    48.15 Gunboat Smith
    47.95 Miske
    47.50 Tuffy Griffiths
    46.88 Mickey Walker
    45.83 Bain
    44.74 Jack Sharkey
    44.74 Slattery
    44.44 Mantell
    43.59 Hugo Kelly
    42.86 Philadelphia Jack O Brien
    42.47 Weinart
    42.00 Clay Turner
    40.31 Godwin
    39.66 Schaaf
    39.50 Al McCoy(the one who fought Joe Louis)
    35.48 George Nicholas
    35.44 Scozza
    35.14 Jack Twin Sullivan
    34.74 Dillon
    34.63 Ted Kid Lewis
    33.33 Wiggins
    32.26 Nate Bolden
    30.16 Dudas
    29.00 Pete Latzo
    26.25 Risko
    19.62 Greb
    19.05 Moha
    16.67 Battling Levinsky
    14.69 Leo Houck
    12.10 Loughran
    10.71 Rosenbloom
    7.41 Bob McAllister

    This still counts DQs as KOs. Fighters only have a few DQ wins on their resume so the difference isn't that big and not worth the effort. If boxrec counts DQ it means I have to change the number for every single contender in all eras and I'm not doing that.
     
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  2. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great, informative piece of work!