HW division better now or in the 90s

because you're deluded

 

look what foreman did in his 40's....the joke's on you.

 

:smoke The 90s were better but it was possibly better then any other era ! This era is much better then given credit for however ! :good

 

Why are you talking about the 80's? they were **** too, and it took a Tyson to sort out the division. I never said the 80's were any good.

I'm not forgetting Foreman at all. What he did was impressive. BUT - he lost badly to HOly. Got another shot at a blown up LHW - was losing badly, and landed a great punch when the guy got careless.

Awesome achievement, yes.

But a bit lucky, and George got his shot because of promotion, not results.

George then very quickly gave up fighting live bodies after that.

That doesn't make any sense. Forget Foreman.

Maskaev is older now yes? late 30's? Is now a belt holder, and never could be previously.

Maskaev didn't make a comeback against tomato cans to get his shot. He's still considered an active fighter.

Foreman was a one off in the 90's. It was shocking because it was so unexpected.

the very fact that it's NOT so shocking any more, just shows how weak the current generation is. Why do you think so many guys from the 90's are coming back in their mid to late 30's, early 40's?

Because they've suddenly got better - or because there is less competition?

Whatever man. You're the one rambling about some form of anti-Eastern European conspiracy.

You don't have any facts or even logic to back up your arguments.

I don't care what colour or race anyone is in the heavyweight division.

I see a lot of guys that are out of shape, with poor technique, little power, and little determination.

No way in the world a fighter like Tony Thomson would be considered a genuine top 10 fighter in the 90's. No way known. Seems like a nice guy, tries hard, does the right thing - but he would have been a journeyman at best 15 years ago.

 

I don't think that we even have to ask this question. The HW division now is a joke. The belt holders don't even look fit.

 

I feel the 90's were clearly better at the top. Wlad is the only elite hw now despite his paperbag chin :yep Depth wise you could make an interesting argument, but the 90's was pretty stong all-around. That being said, there is clearly some anti-euro sentiment floating around.

 

box03, how you look affects how you perform. If you don't look fit (with obvious fats around the body), you don't expect them to be quick and to have good stamina. That's why I said they don't even look fit. Hence, you don't expect them to perform well.

 

Prime Ray Mercer would have decent shot at demolishing any of today's beltholders. In my mind, this says a lot about HW boxing in this era.

 

This is true. Look at Shannon Briggs v. past it Larry Holmes. Shannon may look great, but wouldn't stand a chance against even the Holmes that lost to Tyson.

 

Prime Ray Mercer gave Prime on near Prime Lennox all he could handle. Mercer was a beast and would give any hw fighter a tough fight. Granite chin, great jab, and good power. Unfortunately, his style does not lend itself to long careers.