HW resume against opponents who have, at one time or another, featured in the top 10.

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    lufcrazy, Aug 23, 2011
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    Sonny Liston 17-3-0 (14)

    Summerlin (x2), Bethea, Hunter, DeJohn, Williams (x2), Valdes, Besmanoff, Harris, Folley, Machen, Patterson (x2), Ali (x2), Rischer, Lincoln, Wepner, Martin (16)

    Ingo Johanneson 9-2-0 (7)

    Hoff, Cavicci, Cooper, Erskine, Neuhaus, Machen, Patterson (x3), Richardson, London (9)

    Floyd Patterson 11-7-1 (8.)

    Slade, Jackson (x2), Moore, Harris, London, Johanneson (x3), Liston (x2), Machen, Chuvalo, Ali (x2), Cooper, Quarry (x2), Ellis, Bonavena (14)


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    Rocky Marciano 16-0-0 (14)

    Muscato, Reynold, Shkor, La Starza (x2), Layne, Beshore, Louis, Savold, Matthews, Walcott (x2), Charles (x2), Cockell, Moore (13)

    Joe Walcott 16-10-0 (6)

    Ray (x3), Simon, Baksi, Murray, Bivins, Oma, Gomez, Maxim (x3), Hoff, Louis (x2), Charles (x4), Agramonte, Johnson, Sheppard Layne, Marciano (x2) (16)

    Ezzard Charles 26-12-0 (11)

    Maxim (x5), Bivins (x4), Ray (x2), Baksi, Walcott (x4), Valentino, Beshore, Louis, Oma, Layne (x3), Kahut, Brion, Harrison, Valdes, Wallace, Sattersfield, Marciano (x2), Holman (x2), Jackson (x2), Young Johnson, Bethea, McMurty, Richardson, Logan (24)

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    Joe Louis 50-3-0 (38.)

    Everett, Sykes, Toles, Barry, Pareda, Massare, McCoy, Roper, Ramage (x2), Perroni, Brown (x2), Reztlaff, Carnera, Levinski, Baer, Uzcudun, Schmelling (x2), Sharkey, Attore, Pastor (x2), Braddock, Farr, Mann, Galento, Paycheck, Godoy (x2), Burman, Dorazio, Simon (x2), Musto, Baer (x2), Conn (x2), Nova, Mauriello, Walcott (x2), Charles, Brion (x2), Beshore, Agoramante (x2), Savold, Bivins, Marciano (42)

    James Braddock 3-5-0 (0)

    Rosenbloom, Schaaf, Ettore, Reztlaff, Lasky, Baer, Louis, Farr (8.)


    Max Baer 10-9-0 (7)

    Brown, Schaaf (x2), Heeney (x2), Loughran, Risko (x2), Uzcudun, Levinski (x3), Griffiths, Schmelling, Carnera, Braddock, Louis, Farr (x2), Nova (x2), Galento, Comiskey (16)

    Primo Carnera 13-9-0 (6)

    Stribling (x2), Godfrey, Maloney (x2) Uzcudun (x2), Gorman, Sharkey (x2), Levinski (x2), Gains, Poreda, Lasky, Schaaf, Loughran, Baer, Louis, Neusel, Haynes (16)


    Jack Sharkey 17-12-2 (5) *16-13-2 (5)

    Weinert (x2), Johnson, Renault, Rojas, Gorman (x2), Risko (x2), Maloney (x2), Godfrey, Wills, Dempsey, Heeney, Delaney, De Kuh, Stribling, Loughran (x2), Scott, Schmelling (x2)*, Walker, Carnera (x2), Levinski, Winston, Louis (22)

    Max Schemlling 9-6-1 (6) *10-5-1 (6)

    Gains, Risko, Uzcudun (x3), Sharkey (x2)*, Stribling, Walker, Baer, Hamas (x2), Neusel (x2), Louis (x2) (10)

    Gene Tunney 9-0-0 (4)

    Weinert (x2), Spalla, Greb, Gibbons, Risko, Dempsey (x2), Heeney (7)

    +Wills 33-7-4 (16)

    Clark (x8.), Jeanette (x3), Langford (x17), Meehan, McVey (x5), Jim Johnson (x2), Smith, Martin, Norfolk, Firpo, Weinert, F.Johnson, Sharkey, Uzcudun (14)

    Dempsey 21-5-3 (13)

    J. Flynn (x2), Meehan (x5), Smith (x2), Morris (x3), Brennan (x2), Miske (x3), Pelkey, D. Flynn (x2), Fulton, Levinski, Willard, Carpentier, Gibbons, Firpo, Tunney (x2), Sharkey (16)

    Willard 5-3-1 (2)

    Pelkey, McCarthy, Smith, Morris, J. Johnson, Moran, Dempsey, F. Johnson, Firpo (9)

    +McVey 24-14-11 (9)

    Johnson (x3), Carter, Martin (x4), Jeanette (x4), Kubiak, Langford (x15), Jim Johnson (x7), Lang, Pelkey, Wills (x5), Ferguson, Clark (x6) (12)

    +Jeanette 23-16-11 (6)

    Johnson (x5), Langford (x9), McVey (x4), Ferguson (x4), Kubiak (x4), Clarke (x4), Ross (x2), D Flynn (x2), Sullivan, Jim Johnson (x9), Carpentier, Pelkey, Wills (x3) (13)
     
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  4. janitor

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    I think that you are selling some of the old timers short.

    For example, I think Sharkey might have fought more guys who were currently ranked than you have listed.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've used the year end rankings supplied by Matt D and the ring. These go back to 1892.

    If you have any further info I'll happily add it in.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 23, 2011
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  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All it shows is that once again Ali and Louis are unmatched in this category.
     
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  7. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch cnat help yourself can you?
     
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  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    by this stat louis takes the cake

    wlad and lewis are very similar
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    They are quite a long way ahead of the rest.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    They are and it isn't beyond reason that Wlad will overtake Lewis in the near future.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 23, 2011
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  11. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Christ! For Louis and Ali its nearly their entire resume.
     
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  12. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have several lists like that. I also count the Light Heavyweight Champions.

    Ali fought 38 different opponents 49 times in 61 bouts that were rated at one time or another in the top 10 in the World. (80.3279%)
    Louis fought 43 different Opponents 54 times in 70 (or 71 or 72) bouts that were rated at one time or another in the top 10 in the World. (77.143%)
    You can also count just 68 of Louis's fights and the % comes out to: 79.412%

    Ali fought 37 out of 61 opponents (60.656%) while they were in the top 10. He beat 32 of them (52.459%)
    Louis fought 35 out of 70 opponents (50%) while they were rated in the top 10. He beat 32 of them (45.71%)
    You can also count just 68 of Louis's fights and the % comes out to: 51.47% & 47.059%

    Ali fought boxers that had an average pro record of 33-5-1 when he fought them.
    Louis fought boxers that had an average pro record of 38-10-2.5 when he fought them.
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  13. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis yes, Ali has only 2 more than Holmes, who in turn has 3 more than lewis,tyson and Klit. True, they are unmatched but Louis wins this by a considerable distance. Not shitting on my man Ali, just throwing it out there

    Oh, and good work Luf. That musta took you a long time
     
    johnmaff36, Aug 23, 2011
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  14. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe a more important stat would be how many fighters did they fight when there opponent was still in the top 10.

    Some fighters were past their prime when they fought them and out of the top 10.

    Look on post 12 for more facts.
     
    hhascup, Aug 23, 2011
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  15. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you forget how to add and subtract?

    Ali: 43-5
    Holmes: 22-5

    That's a difference of 21, not 2.
     
    El Bujia, Aug 23, 2011
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