Hype and everything aside. At 135lbs Floyd or Loma?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ClassicRon, Feb 25, 2018.


  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF is too big for Loma and would dictate distance and control range and beat the crap outta him. If you say Loma knocks him out, then why don't people like you want Loma to fight Crawford? After all Crawford is the same size as PBF is with shorter arms doesn't have his speed or reflexes and not as skilled or as good?:deal:

    Guys like Todd and other trolls say stuff like this "Loma beats PBF and knocks him out", but mention Crawford's name, no Crawford is too big LMFAO!!!
    Bring on Crawford since Loma would destroy PBF right?:risas3:
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    How is a guy who is stronger has longer arms than you better reflexes faster hands a better counter puncher more power just as good of footwork better defensively and a high ring IQ who doesn't fade too easy for Loma? I mean that makes no sense. If anything it's the opposite and PBF is a stylistic nightmare for Loma.:deal: Loma isn't outboxing PBF and he's not knocking him out, how does he win?
     
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  3. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    Both are great, Floyd lost against JLC but got the decision.

    Let's not pretend that Lomachenko is not just as good as JLC at bringing the heat only levels more technical.

    Floyd has the better career but Lomachenko should not be written off and it seems to me that they use Crawford as a deflection the same way they used Ward to discredit GGG.

    Again the same guys who want Lomachenko to move up 12 lbs are the same guys who were happy for Floyd to fight Cotto at 154 but drain Canelo to 152.....its great being a Floyd fan.
     
  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You clearly missed the point he was replying to. And of course, like a stubbon twat, you'll dismiss this as well...
     
  5. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    Castillo X2, Sosa and Ndou.....hardly ATG opposition.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF is the best fighter of the era. No one gives a **** about the amateurs on a pro boxing forum, we are talking about pro boxing a fight between them at 135 dummy. When Loma moves 5 weight classes from 126-147 like PBF moved from 130-154 then we can talk about doing things only someone can dream about. Lastly Oh I forgot, Loma has done something that PBF can only dream about and that's lose to a guy with a dozen loses.:deal:
     
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  7. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Loma has shown he can deal with fighters who have an exceptional defense, Rigo tried to frustrate him by being really really awkward on the counter, but Loma figured him out, and quickly. Against Floyd, I expect the fight to go 12 rounds. I fancy Loma in this, in a back and forth fight where they both adapt to each other round by round. Both guys are great at changing tactics to suit the opposition round-by-round.

    Loma would be more methodical in this fight, like in the Rigo fight. I think it goes 12 rounds and Loma wins 8-4 on points. Very close in the first half, but in the second half, Loma figures out Floyd for the most part and outsmarts him in the last 3 or 4 rounds to take a clear decision.
     
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  8. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    You do know Floyd couldn't give 2 **** about you don't you?

    Why are you getting all defensive over another man, this is a forum not a dating site.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    Don't act as if Loma didn't lose to a Salido who's no where as good as JLC. PBF beat JLC 2x Lets not pretend that PBF isn't 10000000 lightyears better than Salido and that PBF couldn't outbox Loma and bring more skill and power at 135 than anything that Loma has ever seen. Again these same Loma fans who had no problems dragging up a small and ancient Rigo to 130 but have big problems when anyone mentions the name Crawford. It's great to be a a overzealous Loma fan.
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You're mad because I'm destroying guys like you on this forum with cold hard truths and you don't like it. I will continue to do so, if you don't like it or care for me then too bad.
     
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  11. Papillon

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    It was Loma's 2nd pro fight against a guy who came in as a light welterweight and proceded to foul throughout the fight yet was still nearly taken out.

    Don't tell me Floyd would even have thought about going in with a Salido in only his second pro fight.

    Yes Floyd is 2-0 on paper but he didn't win the 1st JLC fight.
     
  12. Papillon

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    I'm not mad at all, I like Floyd but if you go off guys he beat at 135 he arguably lost in his 1st fight with JLC, won the rematch and then defended against sub par opposition in Sosa and dragged Ndou up from 130. Not that great if you ask me.

    You seem emotional when people discredit Floyd or have opinions about him that you don't agree with.

    Am I correct?
     
  13. JohnnyDrama99

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    Has Loma even fought at 135? Lol. We have no benchmark to assume Loma does as well at 135 as he did at 126 or 130. Plus, Loma still has work to do to validate that he could beat Floyd. I think comparing apples to apples at 11 fights, Loma would have beaten Floyd at 11 fights....but that has a lot to do with age...Floyd would have been 20, Loma 29. Which means Loma would be in his physical prime where Floyd would have been just outside of his. But overall, Floyd has to be the favorite in terms of who would win when Floyd was at his best vs where Loma is currently in his career.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    There's not a boxer in history that can outbox PBF with the exception of SRR Hearns and possibly Pea Whitaker or SRL.:deal: If you think a guy with short arms like Loma is going to be able to deal with a defensive counter puncher like PBF who has an extreme reach advantage with ATG accuracy to boot with pop and crazy reflexes you're crazy. Just because he beat an old inactive small Rigo doesn't mean anything in this match up.

    People like you just don't understand how important the ability to control range and dictate distance is in boxing and how much that effects someone's ability to outbox someone especially someone who knows how to fight tall like PBF does. That is the key in this fight and PBF has that in this fight and that is the reason why Loma would lose. Loma isn't figuring out **** because he will be getting lit up every time he tries to come in with his short ass arms from a sharp shooting stylistic nightmare in PBF. Then he will get tied up and beat up on the inside by PBF who's a much better inside fighter than Loma is. I see PBF outboxing Loma and breaking him down both physically and mentally over the course of the fight, tearing up that paper thin skin of his. Then after it's over the old boxing saying will ring true once again "a good big man beats a good little man".:deal:
     
  15. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t think anyone has a foot to stand on making the claim Loma has been matched carefully considering his resume in 11 fights. He’s faced every style in those 11 bouts....pressure fighters, boxer/punchers, slick counter punchers and crafty ring veterans. 5 world champions, 3 undefeated world champions and 2 p4p ranked undefeated world champions only indicates he’s been matched aggressively against stiff competition.

    I do agree Floyd at his best in his prime beats Loma at this stage of his career and development