Hype and everything aside. At 135lbs Floyd or Loma?

Floyd.

How can you get outsmarted by Salido but beat Floyd?

 

Castillo was rugged, had a hell of a chin, and power. Lomachenko isn't rugged, doesn't have power, and his face seems fragile.

 

Nice screen name; it suits you!

 

He's a big Loma fan: Who had the GRj fight razor close! LOL

 

Dream fight! Hard to pick against young Floyd, he was a badass fo sho

 

Salido was a cherry pick gone wrong. He fought Rocky Martinez after Rocky was robbing and drawing to Salido post getting KO’ed by MG. GRJ’s first title shot was for a vacant against Lomachenko. Rigondeax, please. No explanation. Marriaga, moving up a weight class after an L. Stop. The Asian fighter he faced. Stop. Walters after a layoff with an aggressive Atkins diet from hell after he was robbed by Sosa. AgaIn stop it. Sosa who really isn’t on an active Walters level. Again. I have more than a leg to stand on. I’m not some damn conspiracy theorist. These are straight up facts.

Loma other than the cherry pick gone wrong has been on a path of matchmaking heaven. Bob is not new to this and has employed this for many fighters.

 

Salido wasn’t a cherry pick gone wrong....it was an ambitious 2nd pro fight having only 3 professional rounds under his belt fighting a 12 round championship fight against a 3 time world champion with 50+ Pro fights. A cherry pick would have been a guy like Reggie Sanders who was Mayweather’s 2nd opponent with a 1-1 professional record or a Filiberto Nietes with a 1-4 ring record who was Crawford’s 2nd professional opponent.

Rocky Martinez beat Salido for the world championship, then had a draw with him before he took on Loma who was 6 fights into his pro career. Loma tried to get the rematch with Salido before that, but Salido turned down a career high offer of $720K to give Loma the rematch and he lost his title to Rocky so Loma took the Martinez fight and completely dominated.

Gary Russell was viewed as one of the best fighters at 126 with a 24-0 record vs Loma with only 3 pro fights at the time. Loma dominated that fight and since, Russell has separated himself from the rest of the featherweights as the best world champion at 126 since losing to Loma.

Rigo was a p4p undefeated world champion with a 17-0 professional record, whom ducked a fight with Loma at 126, then after 3 years was finally ready to step up to fight him at 130. Loma made him quit in a completely one sided fight.

Mariagga was Loma’s first stay busy, easier fight in his career. He did lose to Valdez 6 months earlier in a hotly contested world championship fight that he did very well in but came up short. He stepped up to fight Loma at 130 for his title but like Rigo, Walters and Russell....he was out of his league and quit on his stool. Mariagga was 25-2 at the time.

Sosa was 20-1 who had only lost to A Tre’Sean Wiggins at 140 seven years earlier and drew with Nicholas Walters before Loma gave him the same treatment he gave Walters and Rigo making him quit on his stool.

Walters was on an 11 month layoff, which wasn’t as long as the 12 month layoff Gamboa was coming off of before he fought Crawford 2 divisions north of his natural weight class. Walters and Gamboa had been off for extended periods before and were never completely dominated in the fashion they were against Loma and Crawford....particularly Loma who made Walters look like an Amateur and made him quit...who was a undefeated world champion and ranked in the top 15 p4p at the time.

Again....you don’t have a leg to stand on claiming Loma was been matched against easy competition. All you are doing is clutching at straws to pick apart top level competition that he has fought to discredit Loma’s accomplishments.

We can do that with any fighter....take your pick....Crawford? Mayweather? Ward? Pacquiao? GGG, Ray Leonard? Spence? We can look over their resumes with an electron microscope with the sole purpose to nitpick and find ways to discredit their resume and it would all be facts.

 

Well so far so ****ing good as far as his career huh?! Lol! Arguably the best Amateur in history, winning belts at a record pace, quickly becoming a household name and also conducts himself with class and NOT like a complete POS like Gimp C’s and Star Trek Dorks hero

Y’ALL will continue to look silly with every Loma victory to come. And there will be a lot of them.

 

Good post! Sad to say, he will basically ignore anything you said and just give his spin on each and every point made.

 

Your hero Rigo’s heart and will seem fragile Is the twitter troll back tweeting yet or is he still hiding since attending Lomayale University and immediately dropping out after realizing he’s about 60 I.Q. points too short?


“Loma gonna enter the Matrix with Rigo and come back wit a new FACE!”

 

Thanks bro. I think he’ll at least benefit from reading it....whether or not he accepts the facts is another question, but it can’t hurt. Loma gets a raw deal from a lot of his critics.

 

I could not believe TDBNM thought Salildo was a freakin Cherry pick!! For a guys second fight... I really don't get some of these guys. But I do know where their hate comes from.

 

Agreed....whenever I hear stuff like Loma cherry picked Salido, has been matched carefully or is being “protected” it baffles me. They are also points easily disputed and proven false. All anyone has to do is take any of the best fighters in the last 50 years and compare their first dozen or so opponents and compare them to Loma’s first 11. The outcome is always the same....it highlights how ridiculous those claims are

 

Certainly not stronger (Lomachenko can do one arm pull ups, walk on his hands, wrestled and did gymnastics since he was a child).
Certainly not better reflexes (Lomachenko is better defensively while being more offensive, Floyd gets tagged repeatedly if he tries to fight on the inside see Augustus, Cotto, Castillo, Maidana etc.)
Faster hands maybe with one punch counters, but Floyd could never throw fluid combos. Lomachenko is certainly faster with combinations.
Maybe a better counter puncher, but that’s due more to styles. Lomachenko looks to initiate the action, Floyd looks to stay away from action and get his counters in where he can.
I don’t think Floyd has better power, he has always had brittle hands and the stoppages stopped coming as soon as he stepped up in competition. Floyd doesn’t have any knockouts like Loma’s against Martinez. Loma’s stoppages continued against the better opponents. The evidence suggests that Lomachenko is certainly the heavier puncher.
Floyd’s footwork isn’t anywhere near Lomachenko’s, that’s a ridiculous comparison. It’s ridiculous to make the comparison, Lomachenko is on another planet compared to Floyd in this area.
Floyd is also certainly worse defensively. Lomachenko gets hit less while being the aggressor. Floyd avoids combat and gets bloodied up by Augustus and Cotto when he tries to fight on the inside. His eyes and reflexes are obviously multiple levels behind Lomachenko’s.
I’ve never seen a fighter with Lomachenko’s ring IQ. Floyd is great but Lomachenko is exceptional here.
Lomachenko would both outbox and stop Floyd. Lomachenko has never been outboxed by anyone. Floyd has been outboxed many times, he has had many close fights. Lomachenko is a guy who would have some issues against Castillo and Maidana due to their bodywork and unorthodox/rough styles. Against Floyd he wins every second, Floyd is something he’s dealt with many times before. Counter punching pot shotters who are athletic and fast are a dime a dozen in the amateurs. Lomachenko beat them all in a dominant fashion. Floyd could only win a bronze, he wasn’t great against southpaws for most of his career and he often got outboxed while scraping a close win. You think guys like Judah, Oscar, shot Pac could outbox Floyd but Lomachenko couldn’t. You think a pressure guy like Castillo could beat up Floyd’s body but Lomachenko couldn’t? You think Corley and Mosley could hurt Floyd but Loma couldn’t? You think Augustus and Cotto could beat up Floyd on the inside and bloody up his face, yet Loma couldn’t?

Floyd is a great fighter but Lomachenko is an exceptional fighter. It wouldn’t be close, there is literally no way for Floyd to win. There has never been a fighter like Lomachenko before, there have been plenty of fighters like Floyd. Whitaker-Floyd is a more even match up (I’d still favour Whitaker slightly though). Loma is on another level, honest boxing fans know this.