Hype and Schadenfreude

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkAntony202, Sep 7, 2026 at 8:39 PM.


  1. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Its obvious thats not a knockdown he touches his neck with his PALM
     
  2. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People who pick the outsider every time, then dine out on it when they get it right for the first time in 20 attempts. They'd rather be right twice a day than try to understand why they enjoy being a broken clock.
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    It’s kinda funny how the previous 19 faceplants get ignored when they finally get their parade.
    I expect this same jackassery should Bam lose to Inoue, since he should have lost his last 5 fights according to their expertise leading up to the fights. Inoue is going to expose him.
     
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  4. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    This is kind of different though because the odds were stupid and Itauma was completely unproven at world level. But I get your point and that kind of attitude is grating.
     
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  5. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    You offer an opinion on anything and you're metaphorically inviting one on the chin - if you're not willing to take the punches, you stay out of the ring... And there's plenty of "lurkers" on any given forum.

    Hype is ultimately the desire to get ahead of the curve - it's an emotional investment in being "right" before the proofs in... And sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
     
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  6. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    An inexperienced 21 year old prospect losing to a former Olympian athlete in his professional prime is no shame, regardless of the hype surrounding the kid. Won every round, showed he could take a good shot and that there was no quit in him.. that’ll do for me in a losing effort. All about the rebuild and second phase now..
     
  7. MarkAntony202

    MarkAntony202 Member Full Member

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    One thing I’ve noticed from being in both the MMA and boxing fandom is that in boxing fans seem to want a boxer to be world level right out of the gate and anything less is a hype job.

    In MMA fans(most of the time*) are willing to give the benefit for fighters to improve over time.

    A good example is Jan Błachowicz who was a middling fighter for a long time but made noticeable improvements went on a good win streak and captured the belt. Same with Charles Olivera.

    There seems to be far less chance for redemption for boxing fans.
     
  8. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Not so much that, IMHO...

    It's more that lots of boxing fans have an unshakeable belief that a fighter is world level, unbeatable, a future champion, etc - long, long before there's any evidence that they can perform at anything like that level...

    A lot of boxing fans hype fighters HARD based on "the eye test" against lower level and/or shot fighters, and project certainty that the level of opponent is irrelevant...
    Hyped fighter steps up slightly and wins? SEE, HE REALLY IS IT!!!
    And how dare anyone point out that stopping a durable journeyman doesn't guarantee anything at gatekeeper level, let alone contender level.

    Ultimately, very few are willing to just follow the fighters they like without jumping the gun on how good they might be - a minority will wait for the evidence and/or encourage caution about premature hype... And be roundly accused of not knowing boxing because they can't SEE what's not evidenced enough to know.

    And the biggest hype trains getting stopped at completely unexpected moments can certainly provoke schadenfreude in those of us who take that more measured approach... And yeah, we're going to take a bit of pleasure in seeing a narrative fall apart when we take so much **** from true believers right up until that moment.

    But it's fine, they'll find the next hype train to hitch their wagon to (and the IMHO OTT takes on Hrgovic right now might not last long), and we'll start all over again. ;)

    No harm, no foul.
     
  9. MarkAntony202

    MarkAntony202 Member Full Member

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    That’s actually a really solid point, i agree.
     
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  10. Cornucopia

    Cornucopia Member Full Member

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    Did you somehow not notice how he was rooting for Hgrovic & was happy about the results?
    So there was nothing for him to "get over".

    Your reply made no sense, & detracts from the thread.
    Gratuitously unfriendly & critical without seeming to know or care what he was saying or asking-in an open-mided & polite way.

    Be more like him, not taking senseless, petty pot shots that tend to create tension & ill will.
     
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  11. Cornucopia

    Cornucopia Member Full Member

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    These are reasonable thoughts.
    Although there have been great advances in connection, knowledge & opportunity due to being online too.
    It also made some more callous or cruel from a safe anonymous distance.
    Like saying the answer is obvious unless you are stupid or lack analytical ability.
    Instead of being respectful & just offering a nuanced opinion.
     
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  12. Cornucopia

    Cornucopia Member Full Member

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    I see someone beat me to calling you out.

    I'll add it is bad for the forum, irrational & mean to accuse someone of lying from a nice anonymous distance.
    Most disagree with you that it was a pull down, in general & as pointed out, on this forum.
    This will cause your status & reputation as a rational & respected poster to decline.

    Would it be justified or fair to you for all or any of them to accuse you of LYING just because you interpreted things differently?

    Anyway a simple Google search will show you that it was almost entirely described as a flash knockdown when Hgrovic was off balance. For example...

    https://www.google.com/search?q=was+the+knockdown+of+Hgrovic+by+Itaumi+a+pull+down+or+not?&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS1052US1052&oq=was+the+knockdown+of+Hgrovic+by+Itaumi+a+pull+down+or+not?&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRiPAjIHCAgQIRiPAtIBCTE5ODY4ajBqNKgCALACAQ&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8