so we either have these over protected cash cows who get matched up w/ fighters they do well against and we call them atgs b/c they have a pretty win/loss ratio or we have taylor who fought anyone and everyone. hell the muh ****er offered wright 5 million dollars....i repeat 5 million dollars for a rematch despite being the champ...and wright refused. taylor type guys are what boxing needs.
Tyler is one of the worst Pavlik haters on the board. Pavlik earned the title the right way. He wasnt given some b.s. fight w/ a no hoper for a vacant title or anything like that. Kelly Pavlik is a total **** up for what he's done to himself. but he wasnt a hype job. even fought the lineal champ he dethroned in a rematch immediately after. **** up doesnt = hype job
That's what all Taylors fans say. His career has a question mark over it. Every big fight Taylor had. He either won a very close decision, got hurt badly, or got knocked out.
yeah well if every fighter had the resume taylor had we would have an entire sport filled with hype jobs.
He never beat anyone good clearly. Great fighters beat people clearly. Great fighters who aren't hypejobs. He was pushed so hard by HBO, i knew he wasn't as good as they proclaimed. The decisions with Hopkins were biased in his favour. When he fought Winky Wright he lost but they give it a draw. He never clearly beat anyone good.
ffs hypejobs get their ears boxed off by an atg like hopkins and a sure fire hof'er like wright. even if you think he lost all three fights they were all damn close. you can call bute a hype job at this point since his only big fight he's ever fought he got run through like a passed out two dollar hooker. that's a far cry from giving hopkins and wright the types of fights he did. hell wright was a year removed from making tito look like an short notice sparring partner.
Not all fighters are going to become ATG's, not all are going to fulfil their possible potential. People now say Broner, Donaire, Canelo, etc are hypejobs, but time will tell, maybe they won't go on to achieve what they promised but HBO like any of us can't see into the future. If its not the Broners, Canelos etc that are going to be the next big thing, then who else is it going to be? Answer is, its impossible to say. Fans are a bit too harsh at times, like people above me said, Taylor and a few others mentioned had very decent careers. People probably thought Pacquaio Mayweather etc were HBO hypejobs earlier in their careers also.
I guess that's the curse today with modern boxing. You can have an argument about any modern boxer and call him a hypejob. Simply down to matchmaking by the promoters. Only redeeming thing Taylor did was he fought the best at the time. His wins weren't clear cut, though. It might hurt many modern boxing fans. It is the truth i feel. If you're an ATG, you beat everyone, and if you lose, you have a rematch and win. That's what the boxers did in 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Ray Robinsons, Leonards, Durans, Haglers, Hearns, Alis, Foremans, Fraziers,...etc... of this world. You won't find anybody today on their level. The promoters know this, as most developing athletes go to other sports. They avoid boxing. Mayweather hasn't lost because he ducked people in their primes. So his career will have a question mark over it. It's a shame because the promoters are very sneaky matchmakers and will hype boxers for more than they're actually worth.
This is why boxing is in the state it's in and why fighters won't fight each other. One loss and your a "Hype job". Where is the respect for the sport and the men who put their lives on the line inside the ring for the fans.