Hypocritical to call Pacs win great

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Calzaghe #1, Dec 11, 2008.


  1. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    And all you have done is show how incredibly stupid you are by throwing insults instead of trying to have a constructive argument over it.
    That says so much about you
     
  2. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why it is sensational because no one expected that it is one-sided. Pac defied odds in a fight no one except Roach expected him to win. Grow brains to understand what is sensational or not. If these two fighters were evenly matched, any results would not be as sensational as mismatched fighters.
     
  3. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    Just because some pundits said their opinions about a fight that hadnt yet happened, saying it was a mismatch etc
    You think because pac won that justifies it being sensational, all it means is they didnt add in the fact that Oscar hardly fights anymore, looked better on the scales than he did on fight night, had none of the energy he showed in training.
    And no movement.
    Unexpected maybe, sensational no
    And dont tell me to grow brains and try insults
    I have enough brains to realise that wasnt sensational, maybe you dont
     
  4. OPBF

    OPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The DLH Pacman beat was even weaker than the DLH that Forbes fought.

    Roach will agree and Daddy Mayweather would as well.

    Let's be serious. Pacman did NOT fight a larger guy, he fought a taller guy with no legs.

    Simple as that.

    I loved every minute of Pac messing DLH up. Takes balls to do what he did. BUT in no way is THAT Delahoya better conditioned than the RJJ that Calzaghe fought.

    So if you slag on Cal, you better slag on Pac too.

    The good thing about me is I DON'T SLAG ON EITHER OF EM'.

    Sure, Pac defied the odds, but that was supposed to be against a 16 pound heavier DLH, not a weight drained one.
     
  5. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    Roy looked great on fight night and oscar looked awful
     
  6. I give Pac his props i picked against him, i really thought Oscar was gonna beat him, oh well, it was a career defining performance...
     
  7. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think we have to stop with these Calzaghe is on Pacquiao's level talk.
    Joe is good but Pac is just way above.
     
  8. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    They are bothe excellent fighters.
    Pac isnt way above, he is a great fighter but so is joe.
    I would have a joint p4p right now with them both at number 1
     
  9. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would not go as far as hypocritcal but there's a bit of a double standard. I think Pac's win was better, mainly because of how well he fought, but Calz. win over Jones was pretty impressive.

    Never mind what the odds were before the fight, lets comment on how we each thought in advance how the fights would go down. For me they were tough fights to call in advance:

    1) I predicted Calz. would win a long tough fight. I figuered Jones would do well in the early going, but Calz. would wear him down after the 6th for a convincing victory by pts. or TKO over a worn out Jones. I did not think he would dominate Jones the way he did though.

    2) I predicted Pac. would beat Oscar because of his speed and stamina. I thought he would get tagged and possibly staggared, but did not think DLH could sustain enough an attack for a ko., and Pac. would cruise to a conservative pts. win. Pac. performed way better than I expected, and I do not attribute it to DLH being shot as much as Pac. being brilliant.


    IMO neither Jones or DLH were shot going into their fights, and they could have given some top 10's a run for their money, but Calz. and Pac. made sure that they are shot now.
     
  10. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    I would agree that going into their fights both rjj and oscar didnt look shot.
    Jones looked the best he has looked for many years and oscar looked in shape.
    However it was only jones that looked in shape on fight night, oscar looked terrible he looked out of shape worn out, drained even.
    And after the first three rounds looked uninterested and a beaten man.
    Pac looked good and couldnt miss oscar all night, but he was fighting a shot fighter in delahoya, and if oscar isnt careful he risks ruining his legacy as one of the great champions.
    His losses now number 6 most of which have come in his later years and with a refusal to admit heis passed it now he risks being a laughing stock.
    Pac will have better more competitive fights i would like to see him against hatton or mayweather.
    My preferred fight out of those two would be hatton because you would be guaranteed two warriors in the ring, with mayweather he would just run pot shot and try tie up pac it would be ugly
     
  11. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A former FLYWEIGHT (112) beltholder knocked out a former MIDDLEWEIGHT (160) beltholder. That's a difference of 48 POUNDS!!!!!

    Calzaghe moved up in weight but was FAVORED in BOTH fights against an old B-Hop and RJJ.

    Pacquiao was a 2-1 UNDERDOG against DLH.

    Most of these Calzaghe fans are delusional.
     
  12. alvinorat

    alvinorat Member Full Member

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    stfu man....pac is head and shoulder above your boy....

    all the experts all the writers knows that even a 7 year old boy knows it!
     
  13. alvinorat

    alvinorat Member Full Member

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    yeah isnt that sensational..
     
  14. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Think about it like this friend.

    RJJ hasn't won a fight or been competitive in a fight against a top 10, hell even top 30 fighter since he got KTFO by Johnson. He is 40 years old and a complete shell of himself.

    Hoya, JUST LEAST YEAR, was in a fight with the P4P #1 Floyd Mayweather jr. He also WAS A CHAMPION, HOLDING A BELT AT 154-- LAST YEAR IN 2007!!!!! In that fight Oscar fought GOOD. He was winning the fight, fighting good until he faded. He loss UD to me, although contested, but got a SD loss. Some felt the fight was close enough for a rematch, which he was preparing for.

    RJJ hasn't been competitive in a fight since getting KTFO by Tarver, which happened in 04. He has been shot for years. EVEN CAL said that he was SHOT! AND THAT HE WOULD NOT FIGHT RJJ BECAUSE HE IS NOT THE FIGHTER HE USED TO BE, SINCE HE HAS BEEN SHOT FOR YEARS. That was a gimmie fight for money only.

    Just looking at what RJJ did in the past years up to that fight and what Oscar did, its apparent that RJJ was more shot. Oscar, I don't know what the hell happened to him.
     
  15. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see your point and I can't disaggree with you but maybe we have to consider that JC was a huge favorite in those fights while Pac was the underdog against Golden Boy. The people saying that the Delahoya TKO is a great win must have predicated such assertion on the facts that BHop was already 43 and while RJJ was younger at 39, most experts have been labelling him as shopworn. Delahoya did look shot in the Pac fight and maybe he is really shot but most experts did not see it before the fight. Most experts and fight fans did not give Pac any chance of beating Delahoya not only due to size disadvantage but to their levels of skills as well with the Golden Boy being the better one. Pac proved them wrong and defeated Delahoya, dominated the much favored bigger and more skilled fighter in a manner no other fighter had done before so I have to agree, it was a great win indeed.